POLL: Brush or no brush when cleaning bore?

[jackieschmidt]

I use 22 rods with 22 jags and 6mm brushes. These are dewey, ivy, bore tech and montanas. I only use bulk brushes from brunos or benchrite- i think theyre proshot

Ditto.
I use the same jag on my 30 as I do the 6mm. I just double up the patch.
heck, I sometimes use the old 30 caliber brush in the 6mm. It does a good job.
People tend to over think these things.

 

[243winxb]

If a brush starts hard, don't force it. Got an oversize 6mm . Almost stuck in barrel. I now measure brush diameter before using.

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

OK, full disclosure.

I DID see on my Brux 6bra barrel that pulling the brush back through was causing the shank of the brush to drop and realign upon return and did make a slight mark about 1/8" inside the bore. This does not happen on barrels with muzzle breaks because the brush self aligns.

Or, was the problem the brand of brush? Should I be using a "no harm brush"?

Boretech Rod?

 

[urbanrifleman]

Boretech Rod?

Dewey's rod. Might have been a Boretech brush but I don't remember.

 

[10XSHOOTER]

Bronze all the time

 

[Hoodoo]

Little late to the party here, but if your not using a bronze brush, your cleaning your barrel wrong.

 

[Evan]

Little late to the party here, but if your not using a bronze brush, your cleaning your barrel wrong.

Or not cleaning it, as the case may often be.

 

[Martin52]

So, you guys using bronze brushes, how do you draw the cleaning rod back through the bore?

I don't, I know some do, but I am not sure whether hard carbon is picked up and held by the bristles and then risks damage to the crown when drawn back in. I push one way, remove brush, screw it back on and start again at the chamber.

 

[D Coots]

If a brush starts hard, don't force it. Got an oversize 6mm . Almost stuck in barrel. I now measure brush diameter before using.

Nylon 7mm in my 6PPC and wipe out patch out.....works just fine according to my Hawkeye. Butches will not take everything out without using something like iosso, just like all the rest in my past experience.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Nylon 7mm in my 6PPC and wipe out patch out.....works just fine according to my Hawkeye. Butches will not take everything out without using something like iosso, just like all the rest in my past experience.

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Dave, years ago I read an article by Mr Krieger who stated that on his cut rifled barrels, it was not a good thing to remove every bit of the Wash that accumulated in the small cut marks that was a result of the cut rifled process. His rasoning was after two shots, it was there again anyway.

 

[D Coots]

I can't argue that Jackie. My goal is not a spotless barrel. When I cleaned with butches and sweet's years ago I went by the patches that it was working....then I bought a Hawkeye. That's when I realized I was getting layers of carbon and copper in my barrels. I was using bronze brushes then. That's when I started using iosso. Then they changed the sweets formula. Quit using that. The way I clean now works for me according to my Hawkeye.

To each their own cleaning methods, lot's of way to skin that cat. Used TP for patches might even do the job.

Later
Dave

 

[INTJ]

I started using Iosso earlier this year and was ecstatic. It was quick and easily removed all the carbon. However, that barrel (6 BRA) was showing over three times the throat erosion of my last 6 BRA barrel. I learned from @Alex Wheeler that many others had found the same issue with throat erosion when using Iosso.

With the old barrel, and many others prior, I used KG-1 Carbon Remover, KG-12 Copper a remover if needed (rarely was), and JB on a bronze brush on occasion when the carbon would start to build up. I got very minimal throat erosion cleaning this way.

This week I have experimented with three carbon removers: KG-1, Slip 2000, and Montana Extreme Copper Killer. They all removed about the same level of carbon as verified by my Hawkeye. JB on a patch wrapped on a hard Iosso brush did a little better. However, JB on a bronze brush does very well.

So I am back to KG-1 on bronze and then on occasion JB on bronze.

 

[JimPag]

Never use any brushes at all. Use coated bullets and Wipe out patch out and scope each barrel that I have and there is very little copper and never had a carbon ring problem. Been very lucky I guess.

 

[TRP]

I rarely use a brush. Only if there is a stubborn carbon ring. Carb out and then wipe out once or twice and the barrels are clean, verified with a scope.

 

[Islander]

I use a brush sparingly. That said I am not worried about a bronze brush damaging the bore. Bronze coated bullets pass down there under tremendous pressure and friction and do not hurt it. My concern is the rod and the barrel crown I always push from the receiver and unscrew it at the muzzle start over at the receiver. Wipiing the rod every time they can do damage with dirt of metal laying on them.

 

[spitfire_er]

I usually use a patch with butches on my custom barrels, anything that it won't get, ill use wipe out for various times and it usually does the trick verified by a visual inspection. If that fails ill take a bronze brush after it, in and out with a proper bore guide.

I get a bunch of customer factory rifles that are usually bad. Take a brush and butches after those 10-15 strokes, leave it sit for 20-30 mins, patch out. Still dirty, then wipe out over night, another brush round, and patch clean. That usually works. Beyond that, calls for more aggressive measures which depending on the barrel may be more brushing or a JB treatment. These are usually old factory barrels that get shot 5-10 times a year for 20 years and never have been cleaned.

Many people are amazed how you can restore the accuracy of a rifle with a proper cleaning!

 

[Liven The Dream]

Like Krieger Barrels cleaning and break in.
I have Parker-Hail and Dewy Rods , Montana Bore ,Copper Kill and JB, Bronze Brushes and all types of Jags.
It is a different cleaning for different Barrels ?
I am at this time Running a Krieger on my .284 , Krieger R5 (Boots) on my Dasher, Brux on my .308 F/TR.
They are like people different needs.

 

[The boogalorian]

 

[Willow]

Used to brush religiously and never suffered any damage from it as far as I can tell - the barrels always shot but on my most recent barrels I've just taken to pushing patches through, checking things with my borescope and put an abrasive through every 150 rounds to ensure I'm not letting any carbon build up.

 

[redrockranger]

Mix 1/3 Kroil and 2/3 Butches.

Spell check does nothing for me.