Peterson brass

[VaRandy]

I picked up 50 .408 cases that I have not tried out yet but the neck thickness is insufficient to allow me to neck turn. Someone there previously said they were aware of it and may produce a fatter neck version. No answer on that since including a few emails I have sent.

 

[jpretle]

I haven't tried Peterson Brass, but I have used Alpha Brass, in 308. One lot was used as 308 and another lot was necked down to 243 and FF'd to 243AI. Weight and neck consistency between lots gave me a big surprise. I would consider it 'as good', if not better than Lapua. The rim thickness is greater than any other brass i have found and should lend itself to longevity in the primer pocket.
If you haven't tried it, i think you are missing the boat.
FWIW.

 

[Peterson Cartridge]

Ben,
I see on your website that you sell 6.5 Creedmoor "Palma" brass - what does that mean? Obviously any 6.5 cartridge would not be legal for Palma.

Also, since your company is using the trademarked "Palma" name on your brass, is it safe to assume that you are a sponsor of the US Palma Team?

Thanks,
Erik

Erik,

Sorry it has taken me this long to respond. You have made me do a lot of research today. Everything that I can find is that, the term Palma is trademarked as (shooting events, namely arranging for, and conduction rifle shooting competitions) from everything that i can find we are well within the parameters of not infringing on any trademark rights. Please know this is something we are taking very serious as i am still doing more research into the matter. Thank you for pointing this out.

Ben Preston
Peterson Cartiridge

 

[Peterson Cartridge]

I picked up 50 .408 cases that I have not tried out yet but the neck thickness is insufficient to allow me to neck turn. Someone there previously said they were aware of it and may produce a fatter neck version. No answer on that since including a few emails I have sent.

Have you had emails that didn't get answered? This concerns me if so. We had a change in personnel and i have been trying to put together some of the loose pieces and get back to people that the previous employee ignored. Please if you have questions email me at bpreston@petersoncartridge.com i promise your questions will get answered in a timely manner.

 

[Kiwi Greg]

I got 100 Peterson 375 CT brass.
Beautiful brass
When I weighed it I found it had a less weight variance than the Lapua brass I have weighed which is a third the weight.....

 

[JRS]

Erik,

Sorry it has taken me this long to respond. You have made me do a lot of research today. Everything that I can find is that, the term Palma is trademarked as (shooting events, namely arranging for, and conduction rifle shooting competitions) from everything that i can find we are well within the parameters of not infringing on any trademark rights. Please know this is something we are taking very serious as i am still doing more research into the matter. Thank you for pointing this out.

Ben Preston
Peterson Cartiridge

IIRC, the "Palma" name is legally trademarked, and owned by the US Palma Teams. You might consider checking that out.

Edit: With a bit of research, it seems Lapua worked closely with the Palma Teams to receive their blessing before producing the Palma brass. It also appears Sierra did the same with the Palma bullet. It's possible, Berger chose the "full-bore"name for their 155.5 grain bullet for that very reason.

 

[Mark C]

If any of you have any questions I would be more than happy to help you out. You can either comment on here or reach me directly at bpreston@petersoncartridge.com

I see some of you have questions on using our brass in competition. I can tell you that we sponsor several f-class shooters and most of them have gone on to win events using our brass. We also specialize in extreme long range casing as well. Our casings went on to win the king of the 2 mile competition just a few months back. Know comparing us to Lapua there is hardly any comparing that can be done. We believe that we make a far more superior product. We take great pride with the consistency of our internal volume above all our competition. Not to mention the amount of reload that you can get out of our casings. The testing we did on the .308 win we ended up with 32 reloads and they still had not split or cracked. Come check us out and see for yourself. I positive that everyone that tries our brass is going to be very please and continue to come back to us time after time.
Like I said please contact me with any questions. Rather that be on here or by email I will look forward to answering any questions.

Happy Shooting,

Ben

Hi Ben I'm from Canada and I shoot competition and I'm going to be ordering some of your brass to try

 

[Tempest]

Just ordered some for my new barrel and will test when it arrives.

 

[JRS]

I don't work for Peterson but I do know hot to use the TESS system at the US patent office. Turns out that Palma is indeed a live service mark owned by the NRA (along with a cool design) for goods and services related to arranging and conducting shooting events. Any internet lawyers happen to know what that has to do with the name stamped on the bottom of a cartridge case?

The "PALMA" name is owned by the U.S Palma Team, and protected by them. The NRA "Palma" usage happens through service. Much like "CREEDMORE". 308 Winchester is used by virtually every brass maker because it isn't trademarked.

 

[VaRandy]

I got 100 Peterson 375 CT brass.
Beautiful brass
When I weighed it I found it had a less weight variance than the Lapua brass I have weighed which is a third the weight.....

don't understand. What is a third of the weight?

 

[Kiwi Greg]

don't understand. What is a third of the weight?

When I weigh Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass, which weighs one third the weight of the Peterson 375 Cheytac case, it often has more total weight variance.

 

[VaRandy]

When I weigh Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass, which weighs one third the weight of the Peterson 375 Cheytac case, it often has more total weight variance.

thanx, I can understand that well. Will likely be trying Peterson.

 

[spclark]

When I weigh Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass, which weighs one third the weight of the Peterson 375 Cheytac case, it often has more total weight variance.

That'll happen; lighter weight cases are statistically harder to hold to same weight tolerance as something three times the weight.

 

[Erud]

Erik,

Sorry it has taken me this long to respond. You have made me do a lot of research today. Everything that I can find is that, the term Palma is trademarked as (shooting events, namely arranging for, and conduction rifle shooting competitions) from everything that i can find we are well within the parameters of not infringing on any trademark rights. Please know this is something we are taking very serious as i am still doing more research into the matter. Thank you for pointing this out.

Ben Preston
Peterson Cartiridge

I guess at the very least, maybe you guys should do some research to find out what "Palma" is. It does not mean "small primer". The Lapua Palma brass does have a small primer, but that isn't what makes it Palma. In the Palma shooting discipline, the only legal cartridges are the .308 Winchester and .223 Remington, along with their NATO equivalents. So, stamping the word "Palma" on .308 brass at least makes some sense, although it is my understanding that it is a trademarked term. Stamping "Palma" on 6.5 Creedmoor, .260 Remington, or other non-Palma legal cartridges makes no sense. Kind of like stamping "Tennis" on the side of a football.

 

[Kurt Blasser]

If any of you have any questions I would be more than happy to help you out. You can either comment on here or reach me directly at bpreston@petersoncartridge.com

I see some of you have questions on using our brass in competition. I can tell you that we sponsor several f-class shooters and most of them have gone on to win events using our brass. We also specialize in extreme long range casing as well. Our casings went on to win the king of the 2 mile competition just a few months back. Know comparing us to Lapua there is hardly any comparing that can be done. We believe that we make a far more superior product. We take great pride with the consistency of our internal volume above all our competition. Not to mention the amount of reload that you can get out of our casings. The testing we did on the .308 win we ended up with 32 reloads and they still had not split or cracked. Come check us out and see for yourself. I positive that everyone that tries our brass is going to be very please and continue to come back to us time after time.
Like I said please contact me with any questions. Rather that be on here or by email I will look forward to answering any questions.

Happy Shooting,

Ben

Can anyone comment about taking a proven load using Lapua brass and putting it in this or different brass. Will there be any adjusting necessary? Go through full load development again. What do you generally do or see with a brass change? Just ordered a bunch.

 

[Peterson Cartridge]

Can anyone comment about taking a proven load using Lapua brass and putting it in this or different brass. Will there be any adjusting necessary? Go through full load development again. What do you generally do or see with a brass change? Just ordered a bunch.

What we have noticed and heard from customers is that you will have to drop between .5-1 grain when switching from Lapua. Just keep an eye on your velocities and look for pressure signs. We are here to help in any way that we can. So please reach out with any questions or concerns.

 

[XTR]

I've been working my way through an initial firing of 500 new Peterson SRP 308 cases this yr. I was using new brass in development of a load for a barrel that I did not use at the FCNC this yr, but my results show no reason not to use Peterson brass in my competition loads. (The barrel above was set up for 215s and I opted to run 200s in both my rifles at the FCNC.)

My Peterson SRP 308 brass has a water capacity ~.5 gr less than Lapua Palma.

 

[STOMP442]

I have nothing but great results with Peterson brass. I have only used their 6.5 Creedmoor and .243 cases but they have both been very consistent. I really like how they ship their cases in their own ammo box. Very convenient. I didn't check velocities but I have checked accuracy with Peterson vs Norma brass in the 6.5 Creed and using the same 41.5gr of H4350 found that they both shot to the same poa and I couldn't see any noticeable difference on paper as far as group sizes go. The Peterson definitely seems better made than the Norma though.

 

[XTR]

...I really like how they ship their cases in their own ammo box. Very convenient...

Yea, I like the boxes, and they probably work great for a lot of applications, but they are about .250 short of working for an F-TR bullet case, something they may want to consider on the next purchase of boxes.

 

[nmkid]

I've been using Peterson 6 Creedmoor brass necked down for my 22 Creedmoor. So far the brass is holding up nicely. Like most brass, it didn't like max loads evidenced by the ejector marks on the base. But, I must admit the primer pockets were/are still useable. Now on my 4th loading on some and the primer pockets are hanging in there quite nicely. I'm shooting 80 gr. Nosler's at slightly over 3500 fps. As mentioned by others, the uniformity of the cases is really pretty good. I turn the necks because of my chamber but, other than that it would be load and shoot right out of the box. Was going to try some of the Lapua brass but, we'll see how long the Peterson's last.