Panda | Stolle Action question

[BHppc]

1st post, so my apologies on decorum or formatting issues. My Father is suffering from dementia for a couple years now. He has several bench rest items that I'm trying to learn more about in an effort to gain an understanding as well as properly value. He loved this hobby so I just hate to see these items go to waste sitting around in storage. My first post is about Panda actions. I'm curious to know if these actions were possibly not stamped in early days of production? There is the stand alone action you see in the attached pics, but also his .222 build and 6mm ppc build that have Panda actions. All 3 appear to be Panda but only 1 of them has the "stamp" on the action denoting details.

Thanks everyone in advance for your input and patience,
bh

 

[David Conder]

It is a sleeved xp 100 hope this helps

 

[varminthunter1]

As David mentioned, That is not a Stolle Panda action. It is a Remington XP-100 receiver that has been glued to an aluminum sleeve. It is likely that the serial number has been covered by the sleeve. I cannot tell if you photos are of a single action, or multiple.
Pm me if you need more help.
Jeff

 

[BHppc]

It is a sleeved xp 100 hope this helps

Sorry if I'm asking a dumb question, but how would I verify the round specifics for the accompanied bolt? Most everything he did was for a 220 russian cartridge, which I believe to be the base for "PPC" (per my googling). Seems too obvious, but a 220 cartridge fits well into the bolt face; but I was hoping to be more precise than just "seems to fit" haaa.

Thanks again

 

[BHppc]

As David mentioned, That is not a Stolle Panda action. It is a Remington XP-100 receiver that has been glued to an aluminum sleeve. It is likely that the serial number has been covered by the sleeve. I cannot tell if you photos are of a single action, or multiple.
Pm me if you need more help.
Jeff

Gotcha, I think you made my light-bulb come on understanding that the receiver is glued into said sleeve. Thank you!

 

[WayneShaw]

Sorry if I'm asking a dumb question, but how would I verify the round specifics for the accompanied bolt? Most everything he did was for a 220 russian cartridge, which I believe to be the base for "PPC" (per my googling). Seems too obvious, but a 220 cartridge fits well into the bolt face; but I was hoping to be more precise than just "seems to fit" haaa.

Thanks again

It appears the bolt has a Sako extractor installed, per the second pic. If done right, it should work well for both a 220 case or a BR case.

 

[High Noon]

That’s the coolest sleeve I’ve ever seen! Very well done. Before all the custom actions and synthetic stocks this was the answer for improved bedding and performance. When I started benchrest shooting a few guys were still using sleeved actions in wood stocks. In fact custom gunsmiths still had sleeves in their catalogue…

 

[FNSafari]

The hidden serial number may be an issue in a FFL transfer. JFYI.

 

[kerryp]

PM sent

 

[wildcatter]

Yep, your choice, 220 Russian brass or BR, I will take the liberty of verifying either will work. I'll risk this as it appears to be nicely put together. My first BR rifle was built on the PPC in a Sako extractor conversion, on an xp100.

It was very competitive at the time. It could have benefitted from a sleeve at that time as back then this was mainly done to compensate for the less than ideal bedding products and techniques we have available today.

Today we seldom see a need for sleeves but this would still be a very accurate action for a rifle. Today in BR competition smaller firing pin diameters are also used on modern BR actions. But this bolt could be adapted with the smaller diameter pin and a bushing.

But I would think around $600.00 would be a fair a price cleaned up on this action, with a proper Serial Number! and quite appealing for any modern varmint rig. Not to mention quite capable of excellent accuracy. But I would not suggest it's use for sanctioned match work. It would be a better choice for local club matches and Varmint work.

Like I said, if it were mine, I would find a build for it, but if selling I would not let it go complete with a trigger for less than $600.00. It is a good example of a historic time BR competition. And like was said, the Serial Number makes that questionable?

 

[STS]

Most sleeves had a "window" milled into them on the left side over the serial number on the receiver. Take a look on the left side toward the front of the steel action.

 

[speedygonzalez]

Those were the sleeve's we offered for sale at S.G. & Y. in the late 1990's through about 2004. Kelbly allowed us to copy the outside profile of the Panda action. Don Unmussig own'a almost all of the remaining production.
D.L. Unmussig bullets
(804)320-1165

Keep'em Small,
Speedy

 

[BHppc]

Those were the sleeve's we offered for sale at S.G. & Y. in the late 1990's through about 2004. Kelbly allowed us to copy the outside profile of the Panda action. Don Unmussig own'a almost all of the remaining production.
D.L. Unmussig bullets
(804)320-1165

Keep'em Small,
Speedy

Great info. This hits home as my "guess" on Panda was just simply by comparing profiles. Thanks for the detailed information!!