Out of stock

[swadiver]

Why is this the most common phrase attached to finding firearms, firearms products, and reloading supplies?

I am fairly new at shooting, and despite what appears to be huge demand for these products, OOS is a most common finding.

do not suppliers want to adjust production to keep up with demand?

 

[Cold Bore]

do not suppliers want to adjust production to keep up with demand?

Yes, but there are limitations.

Factories/production facilities/workers can only put out so many widgets in a day. I imagine that most every shooting-related company out there would love to sell more widgets, and make that extra money, but they are at their limits already.

The "factories" didn't overbuild (sound reasoning in any business), and were likely running near capacity already for efficiency and return on investment purposes.

Now there is an increased demand.

Factories are reluctant to expand, as this cycle will eventually run it's course, and then they have excess capacity that is not needed, thus not making them any money. Besides, ramping up more production ability takes time. The current boom cycle may very well go bust before they could physically expand.

Add in demand for raw materials from developing countries (China.....), and a hoarding mentality on the part of shooters who grab every pound of powder at the gun shop and every 22 LR round to hit the Wal-Mart shelf, and you find yourself in the situation that we are currently experiencing.

 

[Shynloco]

Yes, but there are limitations.

Factories/production facilities/workers can only put out so many widgets in a day. I imagine that most every shooting-related company out there would love to sell more widgets, and make that extra money, but they are at their limits already.

The "factories" didn't overbuild (sound reasoning in any business), and were likely running near capacity already for efficiency and return on investment purposes.

Now there is an increased demand.

Factories are reluctant to expand, as this cycle will eventually run it's course, and then they have excess capacity that is not needed, thus not making them any money. Besides, ramping up more production ability takes time. The current boom cycle may very well go bust before they could physically expand.

Add in demand for raw materials from developing countries (China.....), and a hoarding mentality on the part of shooters who grab every pound of powder at the gun shop and every 22 LR round to hit the Wal-Mart shelf, and you find yourself in the situation that we are currently experiencing.

All the above AND, there is a pecking order for certain larger outlets of these products and their orders from the suppliers varies. That means the bigger sellers get their products first and the rest goes accordingly. That means that though smaller retail outlets may order a given number (based upon their projected sales), the supplier may or may not be able to fill that order entirely. And sometimes, those smaller sellers don't see what they've ordered for weeks or in some rare cases, months. Things have eased though and supply is getting more prevalent (compared to a few years ago), as we get closer to loosing that clown in the White House.

Alex

 

[wapiti25]

Depending who follows the guy in the white house it may get worse for gun owners. The democrats are chomping at the bit for gun control.

 

[butchlambert]

Obummer has been a great gun salesman and so will Hitlery if elected.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

Obummer has been a great gun salesman and so will Hitlery if elected.

Big problem for all of us if the Hildabeast gets elected, as she's outwardly spoken of repealing the Second Amendment.....talk about an upcoming fight! Out of stock will be the least of our worries.

 

[Damon555]

Most of us have been through the hording situations a few times now. Nobody wants to get caught with their pants down this time. Look at the bright side.....at least you can get something. Just a few short months ago it was impossible to get anything at all.....Whoever is running the government plays a big role in availability.

 

[ND shooter]

All the above AND, there is a pecking order for certain larger outlets of these products and their orders from the suppliers varies. That means the bigger sellers get their products first and the rest goes accordingly. That means that though smaller retail outlets may order a given number (based upon their projected sales), the supplier may or may not be able to fill that order entirely. And sometimes, those smaller sellers don't see what they've ordered for weeks or in some rare cases, months. Things have eased though and supply is getting more prevalent (compared to a few years ago), as we get closer to loosing that clown in the White House.

Alex

Calling him a clown is a compliment in my book!

 

[Shynloco]

Calling him a clown is a compliment in my book!

I only used that phrase as I'm trying to follow this site's rules on profanity, plus avoiding some other unpleasant activity as the result of those who monitor shooting blogs such as this one.

Alex

 

[ballistic64]

Big problem for all of us if the Hildabeast gets elected, as she's outwardly spoken of repealing the Second Amendment.....

And will be picking Supreme Court nominations to get it done.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Out of stock is great for prices!

 

[1K6BRA]

Out of stock is great for prices!

I hope things don't go from out of stock to out of reach( my wallet) to out of business! I would suggest stocking up now as your paycheck allows you to! My humble opinion is no matter which candidate gets in we are in for some lean times.

 

[carolinaprecisionBrian]

May I ask the question of, what are you looking for?

 

[dryhumor]

I nearly bought 2 500 round boxes of Sierra 69 gr today.

They would have become out of stock if I had....

 

[swadiver]

May I ask the question of, what are you looking for?

well, i posed the question in general, but I am waiting 5 weeks for a chassis, 4 weeks and counting on a mag, at least 5 weeks (i hope no more than that!) for some Berger bullets, a 7.62 x39 replacement bolt (who knows when, if ever), and my buddy is waiting 8 to 10 weeks!!! for a Criterion Rem-Age .308 barrel,..........................................

 

[butchlambert]

well, i posed the question in general, but I am waiting 5 weeks for a chassis, 4 weeks and counting on a mag, at least 5 weeks (i hope no more than that!) for some Berger bullets, a 7.62 x39 replacement bolt (who knows when, if ever), and my buddy is waiting 8 to 10 weeks!!! for a Criterion Rem-Age .308 barrel,..........................................

About normal time, even when we didn't have this so called mess.

 

[FatBoy]

Agreed. The biggest issues I have seen locally is powder and primers. On top of the spotty availability, retailers are bumping prices up every few months. Who would have thought a 500ct box of 142s would be $180 and 8# of H4350 $218? This is double a few years ago. Regardless of inflation and the devaluing of the dollar, this is getting out of hand. I am a free market guy but they are going to price new shooters into other hobbies....

the terrorists (D) are winning.

 

[DennisH]

THANK A Government Figure ext time you se0oe. ttey are responsible for the current trends. Plus a great assest to teh site.

 

[carolinaprecisionBrian]

well, i posed the question in general, but I am waiting 5 weeks for a chassis, 4 weeks and counting on a mag, at least 5 weeks (i hope no more than that!) for some Berger bullets, a 7.62 x39 replacement bolt (who knows when, if ever), and my buddy is waiting 8 to 10 weeks!!! for a Criterion Rem-Age .308 barrel,..........................................

What mag are you looking for?

 

[swadiver]

What mag are you looking for?

C Products Defense 28 rd 7.62 x39 AR 15 mag.