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OTS automatic annealing machine prices?

DRNewcomb

So far, I don't have a buddy who owns an annealing machine and I don't have the shop and tools to build one for myself, so I'm looking at off-the-shelf (OTS) annealing machines.

They seem to range from a low of $275 for the Annealeez to $470 for the Giraud and maybe others even higher. Can anyone name any benefits that the higher priced machines would have over the Annealeez that would make them worth the extra cost?
 
I purchased two different annealers recently because I got great deals on each of them. One a benchsource and the other a annealeez. Figured I would test them both and sell the one I didn't like. While both obviously work very well I liked the annealeez better. I don't like individually loading the benchsource. Just load them in the annealeez hopper and watch it run.
 
Fluxeon Annie:

1. very small footprint
2. very fast
3. very good warranty
4. no gas or torches to buy, no flames
 
22DASHER glad you like it,op if you can swing it I got the AMP and really like it some will argue that it is slow ,I can anneal almost as fast as a torch ran one and don't have to worry about adjusting anything for different calibers except she'll holder and number setting.I can also use it in the house and not worry about anything.
 
I think mine cost around $30. Maybe $25. Bought the torch and cordless screwdriver at Walmart. Already had the deep well socket. Oh, and the foil pan that I drop the cases on was $1 at Dollar Tree. :)
 
Mine was free, had the torch, drill, deep socket set and variable speed transformer already......DIY, priceless....
 
nmkid said:
I got one from Mike's Reloading Bench. Works great, easy to set up and also has a small base.
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+1 I've got the Annealeez & prefer gas. It works well enough after some initial difficulties. Wish I'd waited a little longer & went with the MRB annealer. ...... The design features of the MRB solve all the problems associated with the Annealeez. The primary advantages of the MRB are found in faster more precise torch adjustability and the nylon O-rings that provide traction and smoothness of rotation of the cases. In other words, the flame cone STAYS centered on the case neck unlike the bumpy stick-on traction material found on the annealeeze and its (I believe) Delrin feed wheels............. I haven't actually run the MRB myself but the drive motor sounds stronger. Some one else might comment on this
 
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I had both a Benchsource and an AMP and I wouldn't have cared less if the AMP cost 2 grand, I would own one because it is a better mousetrap, and far as the bullshit goes about it being slow, one u get into a groove with it, u can do 1 every 10 seconds. Anyway what is the big F'in deal about hurrying to get them done anyway? I don't do them and then rush to load them and then rush right out to the range to shoot them. I don't get it when I hear people complain that it is not as fast as say a Benchsoure. Who gives a FK. Is it going to make a rat's ass difference if it takes 10 minutes longer to do the same amount of cases? Chill out. Slow down and enjoy life. People nowadays are always in a rush to get no where.
 
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Based on the advertising and videos I've seen, the Annealeez is not perfect IMO, but it is probably all you would need. The advantages and disadvantages from one annealing machine to another range from exposed flame vs induction coils to ease/accuracy of adjustment and how many empty cases you can stack in a hopper. IMO, the Annealeez flame adjustment is a bit tedious and it lacks a definitively repeatable timing feature. IMO the AMP as slow and complicated with reference charts and case holders requiring the user to juggle too many parts to complete the process. I've never used one, but using the Fluxeon Annie appears to be a hand-held operation with a by-guess and by-golly individual judgment requirement to determine when the annealing process is complete. I don't know much about this one, but it is probably my favorite:
https://www.facebook.com/samannealing/
In the final analysis, some folks like dark chocolate, some like milk chocolate. Sometimes, in order to get what you want, you've got to put up with a few things you don't want. I built my own for under $35.
 
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So the Ken Light, at $595, now bumps the Giraud from the top of the price list.

Just as a reminder. This did not start as a search for the most costly annealer. The idea was to learn if the cheapest model had any faults that would make me regret getting it instead of one a bit more expensive.
 
DRNewcomb said:
So the Ken Light, at $595, now bumps the Giraud from the top of the price list.

Just as a reminder. This did not start as a search for the most costly annealer. The idea was to learn if the cheapest model had any faults that would make me regret getting it instead of one a bit more expensive.
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As a former owner of a Annealeeze unit, the shortcomings can all be easily and cheaply resolved. If you are not handy with basic tools and are not a tinkerer you would be best served by spending a little more and getting a little pricier, but better finished, hopper feed unit. Just my opinion/experience. I have an AMP now because it suits my needs better.
 
rardoin said:
As a former owner of a Annealeeze unit, the shortcomings can all be easily and cheaply resolved. If you are not handy with basic tools and are not a tinkerer you would be best served by spending a little more and getting a little pricier, but better finished, hopper feed unit. Just my opinion/experience. I have an AMP now because it suits my needs better.
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If "basic tools" means wrenches, files, grind stones, etc. we're good. If it means "CNC milling machines" or "3D printer", I'm in trouble.
 
I would suggest buying based on needs. Do you do a lot of shooting or weekend 'practice'? I shoot about 75 rounds a week from a bolt action Sav LRPV in .223 and I used the Annealeez which suits my needs. My first machine was a Giraud and it was a fine piece of work. But my volume didn't call for so much machine on the desk.
 
I just bought a Giraud, for one reason only, I can load up the tray and continue working on other things in my shop and it keeps plugging away, as long as I hear the little "tink" every 10 seconds I know everything is all right with the world.
If not for that I would continue to anneal the same way I use to, and still do for short runs, roll the case in between my fingers until it get warm at the base and drop it.

I don't understand why people have a problem with an open flame, its not like I'm leaving it going when I'm not in there. But then again I have welding equipment and don't keep flammables by my welding table.
 
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