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Opinions on ejectors for long range prone rifles

Hi all....I'm planning on building a Barnard P actioned long range rifle and am curious about everyone's opinions on ejectors for long range rifles.

My background is smallbore and mid range. I've always used factory actions with ejectors and shot low recoil rounds,.223). Because I got started with smallbore I got into the habit of leaving rifle in my shoulder when reloading so i've never had to reach in and pull out brass.

Do you prefer having an ejector? If so do you leave the rifle in your shoulder while reloading or take it out? Any issues I should be aware of?
Thanks,
Matt
 
I usually disable ejection, and pick brass from the action.
But my guns are also made/modified to be single shot.

If not for this, I'd have no choice but to eject.
Then, I would choose standing blade ejection over a plunger.
 
mikecr,

For high power I've been shooting repeaters converted to single shots but never disabled the ejector. I work the bolt slowly and the brass reliably pops out right next to my ammo box.

Do you leave the rifle in your shoulder when reloading? I am wondering how awkward it might be to leave the rifle in my shoulder and pick brass out since I've never tried it. I don't even know that I'll be able to continue shooting that way for long range. The extra recoil may degrade my position to quickly.

Sometimes with my anschutz the brass will hit the scope when shooting an any sight match and will bounce back into the action. Picking 22lr brass out without taking the rifle out of my shoulder sucks but I always attributed that to the tiny brass that is tough to get ahold of.

If I can make it out to shoot early this week,supposed to rain mon-fri) I'm going to try picking 223 brass out of action while maintaining position.

Thanks,
Matt
 
You need to speak to Mac Tilton, Matt-

You'll find contact info in the MT Guns advertisements on this site.

RBD
 
I shoot a Stolle with a static ejector, this being a small pin silver soldered to the bolt release lever. The harder you pull the bolt to the rear, the farther the brass will go.
I hope this helps,
Lloyd
 
Lloyd's described setup is standing blade ejection. I have this on BAT and Savage actions.

I don't shoot high power, but picking a fired round out is normally easier than inserting unfired rounds,depending on your port). Your single-shot anyway, loading by hand, so you could unload by hand while your there.
With a true dual port both actions occur in one move. I have this setup on a BAT also.

It sounds like your already happy with your ejection.
So depending on the cartridge, you can also use a plunger spring that operates best, and be happy with it.
 
Matt,
My Barnard P-O2 actions/bolts do not have ejectors.
Stocked in Ian Robertson/Warner Prone stocks.
I load from the shoulder,during belly gun matches with out any issues.
 
Matt, about your brass hitting the scope. I haven't got the issue with rimfire, but you should check if it's the windage turret where the brass hits.

If it's the windage turret, you can rotate the scope 90 degrees counter-clockwise, in most cases. Of course your windage turret would then dial the elevation etc. Other than that, it's an easy fix that won't cost anything. I use it with a couple of hunting guns, which have low-mounted scopes.
 
Matt, I have rifles with and without ejectors and always load from the shoulder. You get so used to picking out the empty brass that you don't even notice it, it just becomes second nature. On the rifles with ejectors I reduce the spring force,Remington types) or work them gently,RPAs) because I don't want my brass flying out and getting dented in the neck.
 
Thanks for all the input guys.

I had a chance to give it a try this week with my .223 and picking brass from the action isn't as bad as I thought it might be. It will take a little getting used to but I expect after shooting a hundred rounds it will start feeling more natural.

As for my smallbore rifle, the brass is hitting the windage turret but it only happens on rare occasion. Maybe once a match when I shoot with a scope and that is maybe two matches per year so I don't consider it bad enough to rotate the scope. Pulling brass out of my Anschutz was the only frame of reference I had for picking brass out of an action and it can be a pain when it happens.

I think I'll be going with no ejector when I order my Barnard. As with anything new it will just take a little practice...another excuse to shoot. I'm so disappointed.

Thanks again,
Matt
 
Just for something different... I have a couple guns that either don't have ejectors or the ejector doesn't work worth a hoot :, these guns work well enough for a lot of the time. Generally, though, I use an ejector and work the bolt so that the empty case pops right into my hand as I work the bolt back, and I stick it right back in the ammo box and grab another.

There are times, though, that the conditions are good only for a short time and I like to go fast ;) The Palma shooters around here have had a running joke referring to wanting a 'belt-fed QuadLock' - I don't have one of those, but I do have a Savage target action that is the next best thing to belt-fed... there are times when I'm reloaded and back in the scope watching the target go down, watching the conditions and making ready to send another round as soon as the target comes back up. I don't get to run like this very often, and it has some dangers, but I think it does make a valuable tool in one's repertoire - and one that may be a might bit harder to do without a functioning ejector.

YMMV,

Monte
 
My first custom prone rifle had a Nesika K action without an ejector, and barrels fitted for Dasher, 6.5x55, & 308. It's usually not difficult to pick fired 6.5 or 308 cases out of the port, but the Dasher can be a pain if the bolt's retracted too far to the rear. I ordered my BAT 3L actions with plunger ejectors, and wouldn't go back to no ejector for anything. They use a fairly weak plunger spring so the empties aren't thrown far - usually, they land on my shooting mat or in the ammo box. The two prone rifles I built myself on 700 actions work just fine with ejectors; if I'm shooting 1000yd. BR with them, I set an opened rifle case below the right side of the bench to catch empties.
 

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