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OMG!!! What Happened?

bozo699

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Oh MY Gosh!!! What Happened to my 6br page??? I spent the day at my range and when I returned :o 6br was gone and when it finally reappeared it had changed! Everything is different. Looks nice Paul thanks for all your hard work keeping this sight the ongoing best gun forum out there :) Really a stellar job for sure THANKS.
Wayne.
 
The hope is that things should be faster and more stable now as several things have changed behind the scenes. Paul puts a lot of work into trying to make this site as useful and useable as possible for everyone, spending a not-insignificant amount of money on technical expertise and new equipment along the way. The best way to thank him would be a small donation via Paypal (hint, hint....) ;)
 
jaychris,
I make it a habit to contribute but now that you mentioned it it has been a couple of months and I have bought several items so I will make it a point to make another donation and thank you for whatever role you have in this site as well ;)
Wayne.
 
I found it MUCH easier to navigate and read in the old format. This latest edition has my eyes wondering all over the page :( >:(
 
It's definitely a bit of an adjustment at first, but I think after a short time you'll find it to be a bit easier on the eyes and sensibilities. I had a similar initial reaction, but I converted pretty quickly after that.

JRS said:
I found it MUCH easier to navigate and read in the old format. This latest edition has my eyes wondering all over the page :( >:(
 
I thought the same thing. For a few minutes i thought something was wrong with the site. My eyes and mind are still trying to adjust to the change. Looks good and they say change keeps the mind fresh ;)
 
That mustard brown or what ever color it is, is obnoxious. The lack of defined lines between the ads, makes them run together. Hard for me to read. Why is someone always fixing something thats not broken????
 
Larry
I am not much on change either, your motto if it aint broke don't fix it is also my motto, However this site has made two changes in the last year or so and each time with a little adjustment on my part it has become easier to use each time, I personally think they really cleaned it up with this change and I almost immediately was able to adapt to it. I would like to make a couple of suggestions for the next change but who am I. I like having the use of the site so well I am going to do as jaychris suggested and make a donation just as soon as I post this.
Wayne.
 
Paul,
I haven't donated in a while and have bought several items off the classifieds, thanks for the great site, $40.00 sent via paypall Thanks again.
Wayne.
 
It depends on what your definition of "not broken" is... the cosmetic changes are the very least of what was changed, but of course, the most visible.

LarryDScott said:
That mustard brown or what ever color it is, is obnoxious. The lack of defined lines between the ads, makes them run together. Hard for me to read. Why is someone always fixing something thats not broken????
 
One thing people need to understand is that with software packages, you always get a combination of good and not-so-good. For a variety of reasons, including the availability of current security patches, we needed to update the software. This "default" theme also addressed some very real design shortcomings that existed within the previous structure. Before, you may recall, multiple task links were grouped in a single colored tab, and people got confused -- they couldn't find the "profile" link, they had trouble finding the "new topic" link. Now, for example, the "reply" button and "new topic" buttons stand alone and people can find them easier. Before, on a daily basis users would PM me asking "how do I start a thread"? I would tell them: "look at the upper right corner of the post window for 'New Topic'. Typical Reply: "I can't find it". I would sometimes actually give them X,Y coordinates from the edge of the page and they could still not see it.

Re It Ain't Broke...

In some respects, the system WAS broke. The forum crashed three times in three weeks in April. That is bad because each crash creates a risk of fatal database corruption. We had a problem that needed to be resolved. Trust me, FORUM members have absolutely zero tolerance for a site that is down for more than a few minutes. When the site was down for a couple hours I received the email equivalent of obscene phone calls demanding that the site be restored immediately.

Three main reasons for the change were to achieve: 1) Faster site performance; 2) Less chance of crashing; 3) Greater security. The new software (and server change) promised all those things, and from what we can see so far, it is already delivering that. The previous software pack crashed three times in three weeks, requiring emergency (and expensive) action to get the site back. If the software change makes the site more stable -- as we hope -- this is really more important than font colors or whether the button ads have borders.

Re Design Features/Colors
For Larry -- we actually Beta Tested having borders/no borders around the small ads. We also had to find something that worked with screen sizes from 768 pixels wide to 1800 pixels wide -- and we found the borders look strange on a really wide screen. The vast majority of folks said the sponsor buttons looked better and were more noticeable without frames (borders), but having frames IS one feature I can easily restore.

As for the Orange type, that is a "Theme default" and can be changed. However, again, most people seem to like the contrast better than the previous dark blue. You can never make everyone happy. With this install/upgrade we did try to stick to defaults as much as possible because every little change you make adds another layer of code that can generate potential errors and conflicts. If I hear enough people say they can't stand the orange category headers we will change that.
 
I JUST found this thread after posting about the new looks. the lines do run together with out the sepration lines.
 
Paul, the orange to me is just overpowering. The word NEW in orange draws my attention away from the script. The same bold print in a basic black or blue, would be less eye dominating. Notice the respose comments, how vivid the text is w/no added colors or frills. Simple is always better. Larry
 
Paul
Is there any way you can seperate the text between threads? It looks like one great big run on sentence without something like a well defined line between the threads.
There is a line there but its so faint you don't notice it.
I find myself clicking on the user rather than the thread.
Lynn
 
Paul, Jay,

Over all I like the new forum software... looks like a better solution overall compared to the previous program. I do like being able to subscribe to a topic without having to post in it (yay!), but the button text 'Notify' kind of threw me for a bit. On most boards I've been on 'notify' is for turning a post in to the moderators for spam or objectionable content. If its at all changeable, perhaps 'subscribe'/ 'unsubscribe' would be a better title for those buttons.

Hope it turns out to be less work in the long run for you guys, its a great site!

Monte
 
Re orange "new" button.
I'm compiling a list of requests. I'll put that on the list. If that is an image file, it will be a simple fix. In the previous forum we were able to change that.

Re separation of threads. Lynn -- In the previous version we did a manual tweak to provide contrasting colors, and to increase padding (vertical space) between threads. I'll add that as a wish list item. We could possibly use a gradient for the fill behind the topic title. That could provide greater visual separation.

Re Orange Type for Sub-Forum names on main index page. Comments I've received are 90% positive. I know Larry doesn't like it.

Function Testing before mods
Please understand that it is important for us to run the software and current theme without tweaks for a while to evaluate how its running. If we make a half dozen small changes and then we start getting errors, it is hard for us to back-track and see what the problem. There are hundreds of lines of code involved in getting a page to display. Sometimes making changes is easy, sometimes it is hard -- like completely unknitting a sweater just to add a logo.

I will continue to compile a wish list.

One thing you guys need to understand, is that none of this stuff is easy, and a simple color change in certain areas might require $300.00 worth of programming.
 

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