Ok....you've all seen this barrel. Would You expect it to shoot cloverleafs?

[VaniB]

My thanks to the gents over at BRC who have provided input about fluting. Ok, now to expound on that and ask "Should I build a fluted barrel based on this contour and weight, and be able to expect 5 shot cloverleaf groups? You guys have all probably seen and fired a Remington barrel contour like this known as a Remington VSF, VSSF, Sendero, Varmint, Police rifle, etc. This one is a 26" long 308 VSF. The dimensions are .820" at the muzzle, .950" at the right end of the barrel (miked just on the right end of the fluting), and .875" in the middle of the barrel. It weighs exactly 3 1/2" lbs. Keep in mind that many of these police contour barrels are heavier because they are solid without fluting. This one's got the fluting and weighs only 3.5 lbs!


Excluding all other factors concerning gunsmithing, handloads, my shooting skills, etc......
If I instruct a quality barrel maker to produce an exact duplicate barrel contour like this for me in a 6.5 Creedmoor, will it be stable and heavy enough to produce groups in the 3's ? The rifle will be allowed to cool down after 5 shots. I'm trying to make an accurate 6.5 Creedmoor police style rifle that is not too heavy to carry, but more stable then the typical contour of an ADL/ BDL sporter barrel.

 

[kelbro]

Custom barrel. Air-gauged. Yes, it will shoot cloverleafs with the right load and a good trigger.

 

[mshelton]

It's called the Remington varmint taper and has for years, you can drop the tactical, police, swat counter insurance socom and other goober names.

And yes, it's a very capable taper.

 

[expiper]

dont forget a 6.5 cal bbl with a creedmore chamber will weigh more (4oz) than a 30 cal with .308 chamber of same length and contour,,,just in case you are right at a weight limit,,I dont know your rules,,Roger

 

[VaniB]

dont forget a 6.5 cal bbl with a creedmore chamber will weigh more (4oz) than a 30 cal with .308 chamber of same length and contour,,,just in case you are right at a weight limit,,I dont know your rules,,Roger

I figured that smaller bore had to add more metal and more weight.....I just didn't know how much. I don't participate in any formal competition. I simply attempt to shoot the tightest 5 shot group I can at 100 yards at the local public range during a single 15 minute relay. I'm not happy unless it's 1/2" groups, preferably 3/8".

mshelton Call it by any name you like, but you can get that contour in a 26" length in the VSF, Sendero, the Police PSS, or the old VSSF, and it's all the same .820- 830" muzzle and contour from the factory. Some folks on these forums are only interested in tactical rifles and don't know it's the same barrel as my shiny VSFbarrel until I tell them. (not everybody walks around with a tape measure and a caliper in his pockets like I do.) Frankly, when I hold that stainless 3.5 lb fluted barrel in my hand (or 3.75lb in Creedmoor) it seems a bit light. I just wanted to be sure it's good enough for my 5 shot group.

Thanks gents.