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O K SO DO I HAVE TO EAT CROW ?

Bill Norris

Bill Norris

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Always steered away from annealing for several reasons. Some just a hitch but I had never tried it at all. Always used Lapua brass but now using Peterson and trying to lower my E S for my new Custom Build 6BRX from Zack (ODCR) but seemed like unless I changed powders it was not happening. Groups were fantastic @ 100 yds. So my shooting buddy, SVT_Tactical had recently started annealing mostly out of curiosity I think, and we were discussing it over at his mancave yesterday when he said bring over a few pieces and let's see if it helps. I carried 20 pcs. over and he worked his magic. Brought it home and loaded it up and "wa la" cut the E S in half on the first group. Down from @ 20 to 12 E S just like that. Needless to say I carried over the remainder of the brass this morning to get it fixed too. SO, I guess my question is now do I have to eat crow?
 
Bill Norris said:
Always steered away from annealing for several reasons. Some just a hitch but I had never tried it at all. Always used Lapua brass but now using Peterson and trying to lower my E S for my new Custom Build 6BRX from Zack (ODCR) but seemed like unless I changed powders it was not happening. Groups were fantastic @ 100 yds. So my shooting buddy, SVT_Tactical had recently started annealing mostly out of curiosity I think, and we were discussing it over at his mancave yesterday when he said bring over a few pieces and let's see if it helps. I carried 20 pcs. over and he worked his magic. Brought it home and loaded it up and "wa la" cut the E S in half on the first group. Down from @ 20 to 12 E S just like that. Needless to say I carried over the remainder of the brass this morning to get it fixed too. SO, I guess my question is now do I have to eat crow?
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Was it an AMP he used or a flame annealer? :rolleyes:

No eating crow! Just take your buddy out for a beer as a gesture of thanks. ;)
 
Bill Norris said:
Always steered away from annealing for several reasons. Some just a hitch but I had never tried it at all. Always used Lapua brass but now using Peterson and trying to lower my E S for my new Custom Build 6BRX from Zack (ODCR) but seemed like unless I changed powders it was not happening. Groups were fantastic @ 100 yds. So my shooting buddy, SVT_Tactical had recently started annealing mostly out of curiosity I think, and we were discussing it over at his mancave yesterday when he said bring over a few pieces and let's see if it helps. I carried 20 pcs. over and he worked his magic. Brought it home and loaded it up and "wa la" cut the E S in half on the first group. Down from @ 20 to 12 E S just like that. Needless to say I carried over the remainder of the brass this morning to get it fixed too. SO, I guess my question is now do I have to eat crow?
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Maybe your buddy should eat a steak dinner you buy him, lol. Nothing beats good pals.
 
Hey bill, out of curiosity. I think I saw a post that you have Peterson brass for your 30BR as well. Is it the same with that cartridge or are you just seeing it in the 6BRX? I have a flame annealer that I've used a few times before I had a chronograph. Now i'm curious myself.
 
Kevin1990 said:
Hey bill, out of curiosity. I think I saw a post that you have Peterson brass for your 30BR as well. Is it the same with that cartridge or are you just seeing it in the 6BRX? I have a flame annealer that I've used a few times before I had a chronograph. Now i'm curious myself.
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I have not seen the same with my 30BR. However, from a comparison while annealing I witnessed yesterday while at my buddies place I don't feel the Peterson brass has the capacity to hold up under pressure as what we see from Lapua.

I suppose at this point I am wondering how much improvements I could see with my brass for other cartridges.
 
Bill Norris said:
I have not seen the same with my 30BR. However, from a comparison while annealing I witnessed yesterday while at my buddies place I don't feel the Peterson brass has the capacity to hold up under pressure as what we see from Lapua.

I suppose at this point I am wondering how much improvements I could see with my brass for other cartridges.
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When I was only reloading for my .308, like you, I experienced a major improvement in ES's and SD's when I started to anneal my cases. Ever since, I've annealed after every firing and continue to get better number than I ever got before annealing. And it apparently works well for my 6.5 PRC too.

It only takes empirical evidence for me to change what I do and adopt a different thinking. ;)
 
Bill Norris said:
Always steered away from annealing for several reasons. Some just a hitch but I had never tried it at all. Always used Lapua brass but now using Peterson and trying to lower my E S for my new Custom Build 6BRX from Zack (ODCR) but seemed like unless I changed powders it was not happening. Groups were fantastic @ 100 yds. So my shooting buddy, SVT_Tactical had recently started annealing mostly out of curiosity I think, and we were discussing it over at his mancave yesterday when he said bring over a few pieces and let's see if it helps. I carried 20 pcs. over and he worked his magic. Brought it home and loaded it up and "wa la" cut the E S in half on the first group. Down from @ 20 to 12 E S just like that. Needless to say I carried over the remainder of the brass this morning to get it fixed too. SO, I guess my question is now do I have to eat crow?
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Glad you could see positive results. Many things we try don't seem to make obvious improvements.
 
Bill Norris said:
Always steered away from annealing for several reasons. Some just a hitch but I had never tried it at all. Always used Lapua brass but now using Peterson and trying to lower my E S for my new Custom Build 6BRX from Zack (ODCR) but seemed like unless I changed powders it was not happening. Groups were fantastic @ 100 yds. So my shooting buddy, SVT_Tactical had recently started annealing mostly out of curiosity I think, and we were discussing it over at his mancave yesterday when he said bring over a few pieces and let's see if it helps. I carried 20 pcs. over and he worked his magic. Brought it home and loaded it up and "wa la" cut the E S in half on the first group. Down from @ 20 to 12 E S just like that. Needless to say I carried over the remainder of the brass this morning to get it fixed too. SO, I guess my question is now do I have to eat crow?
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Bill just one bit at a time its easier to shallow that way I know I ate alot after I strated doing the annealing process a few years ago and really row not that bad.
Jerry
 
As most folks say, it taste like chicken. Would not believe it. Bill and Graham are just great folks and they will look out for each other, there is no doubt about it. Both are a wealth of knowledge and very helpful guys that truly enjoy a gun going bang.
 
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