Nylon Brushes

[savageshooter86]

I was told by several people to that my nylon brush could be used to "Scrub" the barrel and that the good thing about them vs a standard brush is they can be reversed in the bore. Well I have a ME heavy duty nylon and that thing will not reverse once it is in the bore. Am I missing something here?

 

[jonbearman]

If your brush is that stiff I would buy a different one that is not as tight. What does m.e. stand for?

 

[CatShooter]

I was told by several people to that my nylon brush could be used to "Scrub" the barrel and that the good thing about them vs a standard brush is they can be reversed in the bore. Well I have a ME heavy duty nylon and that thing will not reverse once it is in the bore. Am I missing something here?

Let it go out the muzzle and draw it back in... there is no problem.

 

[savageshooter86]

ME is Montana Extreme. I think that is what it is because they claim it is the stiffest nylon brush out there. Guess for "scrubbing" something like the IOSSO brush would be good since that is what it is for in conjunction with the IOSSO paste. I was just making sure I wasn't missing something

I have a standard brush too and interchange them depending on how dirty and baked on the fouling is. I know some don't even use a brush but I do

 

[wilbur300wsm]

Using a standard good quality bronze brush is fine for quicker cleaning. They say not to reverse a bronze brush in the bore. True. Some even say not to draw it back into the muzzle. We do, just start it back in slow. We've wore out quite a few custom barrels from shooting, but not from brush usage and brushing methods. As long as the brush stay soaked. Isso paste is like lapping compound we stay away from that stuff. Just my opinion.

 

[lpreddick]

i'v been told NEVER pull a bronze brush back into the barrel, esp if the brush has been used a lot. the brissels (?spelling) get bent rearward and when pulled thru the muzzel, damage can be inflicted here and to the bore. you can easily feel this bending by pushing the brush forward and backwards in your hand.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I never use anything other than nylon brushes in my lapped match barrels. Yes, I know that steel is harder than bronze, and that bullets go down the barrel at much higher velocities than the brushes. However, bronze work hardens and bronze brushes get worked a lot going into barrel. Compare the smoothness between a used bronze brush and a bullet and see if you can feel any difference. Next, if your barrel is bead blasted, rub a used bronze brush against it at a specific spot and see if it leaves a mark. It does? How could that be? Isn't steel stronger than bronze?

 

[CatShooter]

Next, if your barrel is bead blasted, rub a used bronze brush against it at a specific spot and see if it leaves a mark. It does? How could that be? Isn't steel stronger than bronze?

I have done that, on smooth barrels, and the mark wipes right off with bore cleaner.

When you do it to a sand blasted barrel, you are pushing the edges of the sand pits over - and that has nothing to do with the hardness of bronze.

Bronze brushes will NOT wear or damage a barrel.

 

[savageshooter86]

I will try a different brand nylon brush and see.

 

[BoydAllen]

You guys just kill me. The most accurate rifles in the world are cleaned with bronze brushes that are drawn back through their bores. I have cleaned that way for years, with no evidence of damage. Brush any way that you like, or not. It matters not to me. I will say that sloppy rod technique and cheap ineffective bore guides can contribute to barrel damage. Recently I have used nylon, cycled back and forth down barrels with Wipeout and Accelerator. It seemed to work pretty well. I used 20-30 cycles, letting it soak for 15-20 minutes afterward. For this application, I did not want the stiffest brush, since I was mostly stirring the chemistry to accelerate the reaction. Carry on.

 

[savageshooter86]

Boyd what brand nylon do you use?

I am not afraid of bronze brushes, I was wanting to do similar to your method but the brush I have is too stiff and will not cycle back and forth in the barrel

 

[bluealtered]

I bought some brownell nylon brushs for my .260 that were so tight that it pulled the head off the cleaning rod the one time i tried to pull it back through, lesson learned. I now use them on my 6.8 spc and it's just right.

 

[BoydAllen]

I would make a few phone calls. I have had mine for years. They sat in my box unused. (OK, I tried one the same way that I use bronze and did not find it effective.) I think that I got them from Sinclair, but that was a long time ago, when nylon bore brushes were relatively new, and the whole stiffer bristle race had not started. As long as the end of the core is looped you should be OK. Just check with the manufacturer/seller before ordering.

 

[wilbur300wsm]

+1 with Boyd. I'm won plenty of hardwear and championships with this method. I'm not here to argue cleaning habits. Tim North himself has told me you won't ruin a barrel brushing back and forth, cause I asked him. Clean however and how often you feel comfortable.

 

[Raythemanroe]

I don't think they meant to reverse it while it is in the bore! I have heard theories of the nylon being soft that it picks up the particulate and it gets embedded in the bristles and can play more havoc.

 

[Raythemanroe]

i'v been told NEVER pull a bronze brush back into the barrel, esp if the brush has been used a lot. the brissels (?spelling) get bent rearward and when pulled thru the muzzel, damage can be inflicted here and to the bore. you can easily feel this bending by pushing the brush forward and backwards in your hand.

If you pull it back through an even number as you push it through the in theory it should be the same.

 

[BoydAllen]

One more thing, if a bronze brush takes significantly less force to push through the bore than a new one, it is worn out, and should be replaced. I buy brushes from Sinclair, by the dozen...cheaper that way. The old ones become case neck brushes.

 

[Raythemanroe]

I use the nylon brushes with light solvent to clean the carbon out and not so much the copper (particularly unlapped barrels) to keep them humming..I don't let the solvent sit long and follow that with a couple nylon run throughs and a wet patch and then a couple dry patches...I would never see the need to reverse even a nylon brush in the bore!

 

[BoydAllen]

There was an old saying about that, How did it go? Different strokes for different folks.

 

[gambleone]

You're just asking for trouble reversing brush in the bore. Why would you do it???