NRA Seeks Host For 2016 & 2017 F-Class Nationals

[DE-F-Open]

To ALL Clubs:

I have been informed by NRA of the following:

NRA is interested in locating those clubs and/or facilities that are interested in hosting the Mid-Range and Long Range F-Class National Championships in 2016 and 2017.

At a minimum -

1. Range must be capable of squadding a minimum of 125 competitors on 5 relays if F-Open and F-T/R are to be fired separately and consecutively; or, must be capable of squadding 200 competitors on 5 relays if F-Open and F-T/R are scheduled to be fire simultaneously.
2. Range(s) must be capable of firing the Long Range Nationals at 1,000 yards and the Mid-Range Nationals at 300, 500 & 600 yards.
3. Clubs/ranges must host BOTH the F-Class Mid-Range Nationals and the F-Class Long Range Nationals
4. Clubs/ranges must accept both Mid-Range and Long Range Championships for both 2016 & 2017.

Interested parties should contact NRA as follows:

Dennis Willing, Director
Competitions Division
National Rifle Association of America
11250 Waples Mill Road
Fairfax, VA 22030
703-267-1460
dwilling@nrahq.org

Time to move it around.........

Hope this helps,

DE-F-Open

 

[280man]

I have a couple of questions.

Whats the reasoning behind having one club host both the mid and long range nationals?

Why have it at the same place 2 years in a row?

I thought the idea was to move this around the country and depending on geographic location a competitor could have at least one of the matches reasonably close to them. Am I wrong by thinking that these requirements that Dennis is setting forth basically forces it to be at one of two ranges?

Not sure what we have gained here?

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Why 5 relays at a maximum and not 6? I would have to look up the rotation for 5 relays, but I would imagine that 6 relays is simple, as it's just the same as a regular 3 relays match but with two shooters per relay.

Also, is the universe of acceptable 600yd ranges the exact same as the ones for 1000yd? If it is, are we not excluding ranges that could do a great job for the mid-range matches?

Is there a list of 600 yard ranges somewhere? I believe the 1000 yard ranges are Camp Perry, Ben Avery, Raton, Lodi and perhaps Butner. Any others?

 

[Immike]

I have a couple of questions.

Whats the reasoning behind having one club host both the mid and long range nationals?

Why have it at the same place 2 years in a row?

I thought the idea was to move this around the country and depending on geographic location a competitor could have at least one of the matches reasonably close to them. Am I wrong by thinking that these requirements that Dennis is setting forth basically forces it to be at one of two ranges?

Not sure what we have gained here?

I feel the same about this. I also don't see the need for high capacity requiments for the midrange while it is still such a small match. There are smaller clubs with only 600yrds that can handle that match if stat volunteers helped them.

 

[effendude]

I would love to have the option to host the MR nationals at Elk River, MN but we don't have a 500 yard range. 100, 200, 300, 400 and 600 only. Is 500 yards really that important?
Scott

 

[Medic505]

I have a couple of questions.

Whats the reasoning behind having one club host both the mid and long range nationals?

Why have it at the same place 2 years in a row?

I thought the idea was to move this around the country and depending on geographic location a competitor could have at least one of the matches reasonably close to them. Am I wrong by thinking that these requirements that Dennis is setting forth basically forces it to be at one of two ranges?

Not sure what we have gained here?

I feel the same about this. I also don't see the need for high capacity requiments for the midrange while it is still such a small match. There are smaller clubs with only 600yrds that can handle that match if stat volunteers helped them.

It will be very interesting to see how many shooters show up for the 2015 Mid Range Nationals in Phoenix because they are attached to the LR Nats. I bet it won't be a "small match".

 

[Dos XX]

300, 500, and 600 indicates that a Palma style match is intended.

Do we need Palma style at Mid Range F Class Nationals?

It is kind of fun, but we don't do it at LR Nationals.

 

[nosualc]

If I read this correctly, they're looking for a 1000 yard range that has at least 25 firing points at 1000, 600, 500 & 300 yards. They must also be willing and able to host both tournaments two years in a row?

With these requirements, it's gotta be a pretty small list of possibles.

-nosualc

 

[Medic505]

David Gosnell made a statement last weekend in Phoenix that I think had some merit. He said a true F class national championship would consist of one day of 300, 500 and 600. Day 2 800, 900 and 1000 and a third day of 3 x 1000. Any takers?

 

[Erik Cortina]

David Gosnell made a statement last weekend in Phoenix that I think had some merit. He said a true F class national championship would consist of one day of 300, 500 and 600. Day 2 800, 900 and 1000 and a third day of 3 x 1000. Any takers?

No, I believe if you are going to crown a National Champion it should be decided on the toughest match the game has to offer, which is the 20 shot 1,000 yarder.

 

[Medic505]

I'm curious Erik, have you ever shot a 3, 5 and 600 match? As I recall, it wasn't a cake walk.

 

[Erik Cortina]

I'm curious Erik, have you ever shot a 3, 5 and 600 match? As I recall, it wasn't a cake walk.

I sure have.

 

[Medic505]

Did you clean it?

 

[Erik Cortina]

Did you clean it?

No, but that's when I started shooting F-Class, and my midrange classification was expert back then. In mild conditions, it should not be hard to clean.

But aside from all that, think of the logistics of running a match that would accommodate all those different ranges. It would also really minimize the number of ranges that can hold such an event.

 

[AllanR21]

Sounds like Ben Avery to me

 

[Lbart]

Eric,
I agree with you for L-R.
Mid-range didn't come to the fore until 600 was removed from the FCN's. Then everyone clamored for a mid-range championship. I see nothing wrong with limiting the MR Nationals to 600 yards. Effendude should be happy with no 500 required on his range .

One item not thought about much is the target face problem at 300 yards. 200's with large X counts is going to eat up target backing centers. We ran into this during SoA's in Raton and we only shot 2 & 10 shots.

Perhaps we should consider shooting only 600 yards during a mid -range Championships? What say you all?

 

[Immike]

Perhaps we should consider shooting only 600 yards during a mid -range Championships? What say you all?

Yes , moving the people and range equipment across the field is a challenge for any club and requires a lot more staff and time.

 

[Medic505]

Sounds like Ben Avery to me

Or Raton. I want to see ranges in other parts of the country. I've never shot at Lodi but I've heard great things about it. I want to go to Butner. You can only take driving to Phoenix just so many times.......

 

[DBailey]

David Gosnell made a statement last weekend in Phoenix that I think had some merit. He said a true F class national championship would consist of one day of 300, 500 and 600. Day 2 800, 900 and 1000 and a third day of 3 x 1000. Any takers?

Must have been after one of the official Long Shots bottle openers were put into play.

 

[Medic505]

David Gosnell made a statement last weekend in Phoenix that I think had some merit. He said a true F class national championship would consist of one day of 300, 500 and 600. Day 2 800, 900 and 1000 and a third day of 3 x 1000. Any takers?

Must have been after one of the official Long Shots bottle openers were put into play.

As a matter of fact it very well could have been.....