NRA National Records
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effendude
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Great news that the NRA is actually going to review records in a timely manner.
I know the paperwork is daunting for Regionals and State Championship matches. As the guy who has completed many of these forms, as promptly as possible, because a Nat'l record is kind of a big deal (inside joke), I can't understand why anyone would delay the forms. I am glad the NRA is enforcing their rules, I thought that is why we had them in the first place. As a match director, I would hate for a shooter to not be recognized for a record because of my failure to complete a form and send it back properly.
Scott
I know the paperwork is daunting for Regionals and State Championship matches. As the guy who has completed many of these forms, as promptly as possible, because a Nat'l record is kind of a big deal (inside joke), I can't understand why anyone would delay the forms. I am glad the NRA is enforcing their rules, I thought that is why we had them in the first place. As a match director, I would hate for a shooter to not be recognized for a record because of my failure to complete a form and send it back properly.
Scott
effendude said:
I agree Scott the Match Director and Stat Officers SHOULD make sure it happens in a timely manner, as I did when I ran Matches.
But, I do not believe for one minute that they get Match Reports 6-9 months or over a year after a Match, it's because they found the big pile of them hiding, more than likely with some I summited in 2009 that they said they never got....BUT THEY CASHED THE CHECK!!!
When you have a Match, Approved or Registered and the Match is cancelled, if you don't contact the NRA and tell them, after 30 days from the match date the NRA sends out a letter to remind you to send in the Match Fee's and paper work....
I think it's a good case of CYA...
Agree 200%. A fairly recent article in Shooting Sports states:
"The database is updated nightly so the competitor’s name and score will appear on the web site within 24 to 48 hours."
That's definitely wishful thinking as I've yet to see the National Records put up that quickly on the website. I'm still waiting for mine to oust after several months.
"The database is updated nightly so the competitor’s name and score will appear on the web site within 24 to 48 hours."
That's definitely wishful thinking as I've yet to see the National Records put up that quickly on the website. I'm still waiting for mine to oust after several months.
fbraun said:
Hmmm....I was told, by someone who certainly should know, that once a record has been submitted that it has to hold for a year before it is recognized. Is this true? That's a long wait!
fbraun said:
I saw a national record get posted in a week back in 2007. Record was shot on a Sunday, match director faxed forms in on Monday, and it was posted on the web site by the following Monday. I know the NRA has slowed a bit, but I do not think that record posting is intentionally delayed or sat on...at least I hope not.
6brmrshtr said:
You've broken so many here lately it would be a full time job just to keep up with you. ;D
No one forces you to join. Seems to me though, that if it were not for the NRA, we might not even be chatting in this forum.
From www.Forbes.com,( Dated 2010 ) numbers I found interesting.
The numbers are a bit out of date. The last filing of a Form 990 from the NRA was in 2010. Still, if you’re interested in the numbers behind America’s most powerful gun lobby, it makes for interesting reading.
The organization’s mission is simply stated, right at the top: “To protect and defend the U.S. Constitution.†To accomplish this, in 2010 the NRA reported that it had 781 full time employees, 125,000 volunteers and generated revenues of $227.8 million.
Where does all that come from? In 2010, $71 million came from contributions and grants, $100 million from membership fees and $46 million from other revenue sources, like ad sales ($20 million) royalties, rents and subscriptions.
In 2010 that wasn’t enough to cover expenses. In total, they spent $243.5 million, leaving a $15 million shortfall, at least that year, which was cushioned by assets of $37.5 million.
Where did all the money go? About $33 million went to salaries and wages (not including the top brass), $28 million went to advertising and promotions. By far the biggest items were membership outreach: $57 million for membership communications, $24 million for printing and shipping, $16 million for educational programs. Just about $10 million went to the NRA’s lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action.
More than $12.7 million went to Akron-Ohio based InfoCision, a huge telemarketing company that lists a broad spectrum of blue chip non-profits as clients– including Smile Train, the American Diabetes Association, Easter Seals and Unicef—as well as the College Republican National Committee and companies like Time Warner and AT&T.
As for salaries, fifty-six people in the organization earned more than $100,000 in 2010—and 10 made more than $250,000. Lapierre does not top the list. Kayne B. Robinson, the executive director of general operations does. He was paid just over $1 million. Lapierre was second, pulling in $970,000 in reportable and estimated comp.
Chris W. Cox, the executive director of the group’s lobbying efforts, was third. He earned just over $666,000.
The numbers are a bit out of date. The last filing of a Form 990 from the NRA was in 2010. Still, if you’re interested in the numbers behind America’s most powerful gun lobby, it makes for interesting reading.
The organization’s mission is simply stated, right at the top: “To protect and defend the U.S. Constitution.†To accomplish this, in 2010 the NRA reported that it had 781 full time employees, 125,000 volunteers and generated revenues of $227.8 million.
Where does all that come from? In 2010, $71 million came from contributions and grants, $100 million from membership fees and $46 million from other revenue sources, like ad sales ($20 million) royalties, rents and subscriptions.
In 2010 that wasn’t enough to cover expenses. In total, they spent $243.5 million, leaving a $15 million shortfall, at least that year, which was cushioned by assets of $37.5 million.
Where did all the money go? About $33 million went to salaries and wages (not including the top brass), $28 million went to advertising and promotions. By far the biggest items were membership outreach: $57 million for membership communications, $24 million for printing and shipping, $16 million for educational programs. Just about $10 million went to the NRA’s lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action.
More than $12.7 million went to Akron-Ohio based InfoCision, a huge telemarketing company that lists a broad spectrum of blue chip non-profits as clients– including Smile Train, the American Diabetes Association, Easter Seals and Unicef—as well as the College Republican National Committee and companies like Time Warner and AT&T.
As for salaries, fifty-six people in the organization earned more than $100,000 in 2010—and 10 made more than $250,000. Lapierre does not top the list. Kayne B. Robinson, the executive director of general operations does. He was paid just over $1 million. Lapierre was second, pulling in $970,000 in reportable and estimated comp.
Chris W. Cox, the executive director of the group’s lobbying efforts, was third. He earned just over $666,000.
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
They could save hundreds if they stopped sending me membership renewals every month. Im a life member.
Dusty Stevens said:
I think it would in the millions......
falconpilot
Gold $$ Contributor
David,
Do you know who the MD for the Nationals? I noticed that your record is showing from the Nats, but mine isn't...
Jim
Do you know who the MD for the Nationals? I noticed that your record is showing from the Nats, but mine isn't...
Jim
falconpilot
Gold $$ Contributor
Missed that...Thanks!
The NRA doesn't seem very interested in Competition. Their main focus is fund raising. They don't seem to update classifications for very long periods of time, even when the scores are submitted in a timely manner by the MD's. I shot 4 or 5 Mid range F-Class, 60 rounds matches this year at two different ranges, where the MD's were very prompt at emailing all competitors the final results in a spreadsheet within 24 hours. I have no doubt they did submit the results to the NRA equally promptly, and I did ask that question. The NRA still shows me as unclassified in Mid Range. I also shot at least 6, long range matches and the scores would have changed my classification easily. No change shown. They can claim they are getting scores months late, but it seems far more likely that they are getting around to looking at them months late. I think it would make better sense to have a separate competition organization that is focused on competition shooting handle Records and Classifications rather than have the NRA do it.
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