Newbie to 6 dasher ( Archer barrel, 26' finished , 1/10 ) need advices on VV powders

[Marc63480]

Hi guys,
Newbie to 6 dasher ( I bought the barrel this morning !!! ) : reamer is .271 and I don't know yet the FB but made for medium weight bullet ( 80 to 95 )
The barrel is an Archer ( Scottish barrel, button rifled made by Border ) 1/10 twist , it will be finished about 26' long put into a Kelbly's Panda.

I bought it to shoot HV BR class at 300 meters , the 1/10 is supposed to increase less torque, which is more confortable for BR.
I have some 90 match target BT & 95gr VLD Target Berger and also 90 Lapua Scenar OTM - L .

The cases will be made from 6BR Norma cases

I only have access to european powders so my first question is about them : would you shoot VV N140 or N150 or other like Swiss RS ?

Secondly : What are the velocities to reach to shoot group size at 300 meters ?

Many thanks in advance for your precious help.

Marc

 

[KMart]

I have a 10 twist on a Dasher. In my rifle, it will not stabilize the 95 VLD Target. It will work just fine with the 95 Berger Classic Hunter. In yours, it may work fine since all barrels are not the same.
As to the powder, the N140 and 150 are both good powders. You will just have to test both to see what combination of rifle/bullet/powder that it likes. You should be able to find something to your liking in the 2950- 3050 fps range.

 

[Mulligan]

I’ve used both plus, N-135. The latter will likely be your friend.

I’ve run the 95’s at a gentle turkey trot, and spanked them…. Both very good performers.

CW

 

[NZ_Fclass]

Another vote for N135 and 140. I can't comment on the Swiss - we only see certain powders as Reloader brand. Great pity that you don't have Varget and H4895. But you do get Lovex -I'm sure that the one used for 308 would be worth trying - cant remember the number. (Laurie - if you are listening...)

Are Border barrels running again? I thought that they were acquired by Sassen Engineering in B'ham, who subsequently closed.. Do they have the Pratt and Whitney machines back there?

 

[Marc63480]

Another vote for N135 and 140. I can't comment on the Swiss - we only see certain powders as Reloader brand. Great pity that you don't have Varget and H4895. But you do get Lovex -I'm sure that the one used for 308 would be worth trying - cant remember the number. (Laurie - if you are listening...)

Are Border barrels running again? I thought that they were acquired by Sleeman Engineering in B'ham, who subsequently closed.. Do they have the Pratt and Whitney machines back there?

The new company with the same machines and same quality is now Phoenix Barrels , owned by real shooters !

 

[Marc63480]

The new company with the same machines and same quality is now Phoenix Barrels , owned by real shooters !

We can have some LOVEX here but give me the reference please, it would be great

 

[Marc63480]

Probably S065 .... if I can trust the Lovex burning rate chart.

 

[NZ_Fclass]

The new company with the same machines and same quality is now Phoenix Barrels , owned by real shooters !

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[Marc63480]

Some good news !
My friend chambered my barrel, it is 27,5 inches long( 28,6 new )
I put a pic of the final result : it's looks like a carp's fishing rod for a benchers shooter like I am, who is mostly accommodated to 21/22 ' barrels ( for 6PPC ).
I made this cedar last november to shoot 30 BR score matches : red cedar and carbon laminated stock

My friend did a accurate barrel breaking , slow between each shoot then after 15 shots he shoot some 5 shoots groups
Don't ask him how he does but some N140 to the shoulder and some home made 68 gr FB bullets! He can't tell me how far from the lands he was but the result is here ! This was fire forming !

The first group is a 100 meters target : the first bullet is the one very down then the four others upper.
The barrel shoot better and better after each shoot
The last group is clean for a fire forming group at 100 meters which inappropriate 68gr bullets regard to 1/10 twist.
The last 2 pics are inside the cleaned barrel after 52 bullets through.

 

[Marc63480]

some pics of the garage made red cedar stock.

The action's location

 

[Marc63480]

the barrels channel

 

[Marc63480]

the bedding

 

[Marc63480]

the carbon sole and the forend

 

[Marc63480]

the result

 

[Marc63480]

the rifle ( in 30 BR )

 

[Marc63480]

2 targets 4 november 2022, in la Fare les Oliviers , south of France.
Trying to find the load for 100 et 2OO meters.
The first target is a 6 shoots group at 100 meters : 34,3 gn N130 with 30 /115 gr 30 FB 9S profile home made bullet made by a friend
the second one is at 200 meters, same load , the first bullet up is after cleaning , the four others have made a one hole shoot.

 

[Marc63480]

Now, I'am waiting for wednesday to try the 90 gr lap scenario OTM -L at 200 meters.

 

[Big Mc]

Hi guys,
Newbie to 6 dasher ( I bought the barrel this morning !!! ) : reamer is .271 and I don't know yet the FB but made for medium weight bullet ( 80 to 95 )
The barrel is an Archer ( Scottish barrel, button rifled made by Border ) 1/10 twist , it will be finished about 26' long put into a Kelbly's Panda.

I bought it to shoot HV BR class at 300 meters , the 1/10 is supposed to increase less torque, which is more confortable for BR.
I have some 90 match target BT & 95gr VLD Target Berger and also 90 Lapua Scenar OTM - L .

The cases will be made from 6BR Norma cases

I only have access to european powders so my first question is about them : would you shoot VV N140 or N150 or other like Swiss RS ?

Secondly : What are the velocities to reach to shoot group size at 300 meters ?

Many thanks in advance for your precious help.

Marc

N135 works in mine TommyMc