At yesterday's match I overheard some folks talking about a new powder that's a cheaper, readily available, competitor to Varget. I was shooting at the time and just picked up bits and pieces of the chatter through my electronic ear muffs and didn't think to ask around afterward. Any idea what the chatter was about?
New substitute for Varget?
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Just use IMR 4064. I've said it before but I'm very stubborn. It is a way better (more consistant) powder than 4166
rockhound78
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SW Precision.
Ned Ludd
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I have seen Shooter's World "Precision" powder mentioned a few times recently as a potential replacement for Varget:
https://shootersworldpowder.com/precision-rifle/
The following burn rate chart shows where it stacks up in relation to other manufacturers' products:
https://shootersworldpowder.com/bulk-propellant/#burn
I have never tried it, but there are a few people here that may have. Perhaps they could chime in on how it compared to Varget.
https://shootersworldpowder.com/precision-rifle/
The following burn rate chart shows where it stacks up in relation to other manufacturers' products:
https://shootersworldpowder.com/bulk-propellant/#burn
I have never tried it, but there are a few people here that may have. Perhaps they could chime in on how it compared to Varget.
And when it comes unubtainum you have only yourselves to blame.
There goes my thinking of using more obscure components for my shooting needs.
Edit, I PM'd the OP of what I thought 2 viable options were after my 1 word response.
@Rob01 nailed 1 option 4166 is pushing
123 scenar's accurately @2900+ out of a 6.5cm 22" barrel.
There goes my thinking of using more obscure components for my shooting needs.
Edit, I PM'd the OP of what I thought 2 viable options were after my 1 word response.
@Rob01 nailed 1 option 4166 is pushing
123 scenar's accurately @2900+ out of a 6.5cm 22" barrel.
Nick Caprinolo
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Shooters World Precision Rifle S062 Smokeless Gun Powder
I decided to give this powder a try in place of Vargat. It is close enough in characteristics that I used the same weight to start with for loading. I got very good results. The next time I use it, I will do some extensive test for velocity as compared to Vargat and try to match it and see what happens.
$21.99 a lb at Midway.
I decided to give this powder a try in place of Vargat. It is close enough in characteristics that I used the same weight to start with for loading. I got very good results. The next time I use it, I will do some extensive test for velocity as compared to Vargat and try to match it and see what happens.
$21.99 a lb at Midway.
And that would be option #2.
Hey @Nick Caprinolo I think some folks didnt hear you, maybe yell a lil louder next time.lol
Hey @Nick Caprinolo I think some folks didnt hear you, maybe yell a lil louder next time.lol
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Nick Caprinolo
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I wasn't trying to shout. I copied and pasted the first line from an ad and the rest followed along with the same type size. Shouting is the use of all capitals. Anyway, I do like this powder as a substitute for Vargat. I do still have plenty of Vargat left on he shelf but the way things are going today, you can never have too much powder.
MikeMcCasland
Team Texas F-T/R
I've shot a good bit of SW Precision. It's a good powder.
It'll usually show pressure slightly before you hit Varget speeds; SDs/ES are routinely better than Varget. I've observed that behavior in .223 with heavies, 6GT, 6.5CM, and .308s (running the 20x).
The kernel size is all over the place though; You'll find logs in there the size of 4064, along with grains of sand. It doesn't meter well unless you're using an automatic dispenser.
While the NRA wasn't accepting scores during COVID, I shot 300 yard F-Class match using it with a suppressed .223 of all things (just playing with some 80gr SMKs). Seemed to be temp stable, even with the suppressor keeping that barrel smoking hot.
Edit: You can basically load it using Varget data. You'll end up with damn near identical charge weights.
It'll usually show pressure slightly before you hit Varget speeds; SDs/ES are routinely better than Varget. I've observed that behavior in .223 with heavies, 6GT, 6.5CM, and .308s (running the 20x).
The kernel size is all over the place though; You'll find logs in there the size of 4064, along with grains of sand. It doesn't meter well unless you're using an automatic dispenser.
While the NRA wasn't accepting scores during COVID, I shot 300 yard F-Class match using it with a suppressed .223 of all things (just playing with some 80gr SMKs). Seemed to be temp stable, even with the suppressor keeping that barrel smoking hot.
Edit: You can basically load it using Varget data. You'll end up with damn near identical charge weights.
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bozo699
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