"New" Sinclair Bipod (adjustable) Where Is it??
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Sray53TXTN
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Sray53TXTN
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"post a pic of you holding it with todays newspaper. i still call hogwash!
congrats if you actually recieved one, i am jealous no doubt."
I will sell it to you for $400 (not)
;D
;D
It's real and used it today at 600 yards, very stable and the elevator mechanism worked well.
Actually there was another shooter who was using one as well.
congrats if you actually recieved one, i am jealous no doubt."
I will sell it to you for $400 (not)
;D
;DIt's real and used it today at 600 yards, very stable and the elevator mechanism worked well.
Actually there was another shooter who was using one as well.
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Ok now that you have got one perhaps you can answer the million dollar question!!!!!!!! How much does it weigh?
Ian
Ian
Keith Glasscock
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Mine got here today... UPS was just a little too late to get out to the range, but it took a little assembly (not much).
Mine is the quick-adjust vertical model. I did a little measuring while I had it on the rifle. Based on my 26" between bipod and rear bag, each turn (about .042") gives me 5.5 MOA change in point of impact. To give you an idea of how sensitive it will be, in order to go from the top of the f-class X ring to the bottom should take about 32 degrees of turning. By the same token, moving the POI 1/8 MOA should be about 8 degrees of knob movement.
That might be bit touchy for some folks, but most F/TR shooters I know do most of their adjusting with the rear bag. It will be nice to have the ability to make major adjustments if one gets their setup "fluffed" during a string.
I'll drag it out to the range (if the fog ever lets up) and give her a test as soon as I can.
Keith
Mine is the quick-adjust vertical model. I did a little measuring while I had it on the rifle. Based on my 26" between bipod and rear bag, each turn (about .042") gives me 5.5 MOA change in point of impact. To give you an idea of how sensitive it will be, in order to go from the top of the f-class X ring to the bottom should take about 32 degrees of turning. By the same token, moving the POI 1/8 MOA should be about 8 degrees of knob movement.
That might be bit touchy for some folks, but most F/TR shooters I know do most of their adjusting with the rear bag. It will be nice to have the ability to make major adjustments if one gets their setup "fluffed" during a string.
I'll drag it out to the range (if the fog ever lets up) and give her a test as soon as I can.
Keith
Sray53TXTN
Silver $$ Contributor
One of the ladies we shoot with received hers and posted this on another site:"new Sinclair bipod arrived. It's about 1.8 lbs on our postal scale".
On the road and don't have ability to weigh mine.
On the road and don't have ability to weigh mine.
Sray53TXTN
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Keith I think the word "fluffed" is well applied to the setup string.Busdriver said:
Have you had a chance to take it for a run yet?
Keith Glasscock
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Ran it a couple of times. First time was simple load testing... I noticed that I am producing less horizontal in my groups. For example, my 155.5 Fullbore load runs around 1/2" of vertical at 300 yards. Even in no-wind conditions, I would get 1.2-1.5" of horizontal with the load. I considered working the seating depth, but considering that I do not do any testing off the bench, I suspected that it was me. At 300 yards, the barrel put 4 into a 5/8" vertical by 1/2' horizontal group. Seeing that I had a wallet group in the making, I successfully pulled the last shot at 6 o'clock opening the group to 1"
Just a guess here, but I think my loads are going to group (on average) much tighter than with the original Caldwell I was using.
The vertical adjust has its ups and downs (if you'll pardon the pun). Up side - I can get the elevation set to where I can have the rear bag anywhereI like on the sloped bottom of the butt. Down side - I can't even imagine trying to move the POI with it - far too sensitive. Other downer - vertical adjust mechanism has a slight amount of play in cant. It is possible to move the cant with your cheek if you get excited. It isn't much cant, but it is enough to create an oops at long range.
Dynamics:
The dynamics of the rifle have changed quite a bit. Some of that is due to the 1 pound increase in overall weight (I went from 15.4 to 16.4 lbs) and the fact that the weight is rather far forward. The downside is that I'm going to have to work to remove the "crutches" in my shooting techique that I've been using.
I tried 2 different techniques while shooting heavy bullets (I have a 26" barrel and have to use them for long range) at 600 yards. First technique is simple - put recoil pad into shoulder and only touch the rifle with the index finger and thumb of the right hand. This technique provided good accuracy, and reasonable recoil management. The down side was not being able to see the trace at all because the rifle was lifting the bipod clean off of the ground (I need to change the recoil pad location). I did have 3 shots out of 22 that hit 3/4 MOA low. I saw the shots break on all 3 and watched the target through recoil. To be honest, the crosshairs never went anywhere different than the 19 other shots, so it has to be either a problem with the rifle or load (the load had never been shot at 600 before and had shown some intermittent weirdness the day before at 300).
The second technique is very similar to what I used with the Caldwell bipod. The right hand is used to direct a light loading into the shoulder and the thumb and index finger work the trigger. I only tried it for a couple of shots at 600. I did notice a reduction in muzzle rise and less lateral movement of the rifle.
Considering how stout of a load that I was shooting, the new bipod performed admirably. I'm excited to get a chance to move the recoil pad up a little to see if the muzzle rise dies down a bit. If I can keep the bipod on the ground, I think the rifle will be easier to shoot consistently.
Hope this helps.
Just a guess here, but I think my loads are going to group (on average) much tighter than with the original Caldwell I was using.
The vertical adjust has its ups and downs (if you'll pardon the pun). Up side - I can get the elevation set to where I can have the rear bag anywhereI like on the sloped bottom of the butt. Down side - I can't even imagine trying to move the POI with it - far too sensitive. Other downer - vertical adjust mechanism has a slight amount of play in cant. It is possible to move the cant with your cheek if you get excited. It isn't much cant, but it is enough to create an oops at long range.
Dynamics:
The dynamics of the rifle have changed quite a bit. Some of that is due to the 1 pound increase in overall weight (I went from 15.4 to 16.4 lbs) and the fact that the weight is rather far forward. The downside is that I'm going to have to work to remove the "crutches" in my shooting techique that I've been using.
I tried 2 different techniques while shooting heavy bullets (I have a 26" barrel and have to use them for long range) at 600 yards. First technique is simple - put recoil pad into shoulder and only touch the rifle with the index finger and thumb of the right hand. This technique provided good accuracy, and reasonable recoil management. The down side was not being able to see the trace at all because the rifle was lifting the bipod clean off of the ground (I need to change the recoil pad location). I did have 3 shots out of 22 that hit 3/4 MOA low. I saw the shots break on all 3 and watched the target through recoil. To be honest, the crosshairs never went anywhere different than the 19 other shots, so it has to be either a problem with the rifle or load (the load had never been shot at 600 before and had shown some intermittent weirdness the day before at 300).
The second technique is very similar to what I used with the Caldwell bipod. The right hand is used to direct a light loading into the shoulder and the thumb and index finger work the trigger. I only tried it for a couple of shots at 600. I did notice a reduction in muzzle rise and less lateral movement of the rifle.
Considering how stout of a load that I was shooting, the new bipod performed admirably. I'm excited to get a chance to move the recoil pad up a little to see if the muzzle rise dies down a bit. If I can keep the bipod on the ground, I think the rifle will be easier to shoot consistently.
Hope this helps.
memilanuk
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Mine showed up last night. Opened the box, eager to see this unicorn that we've all been waiting on...
...is it just mine, or is the machining on the curved sections of the legs a bit sub-par? Big chatter marks up and down the top and bottom - to the point it looks almost serrated.
The 'critical' areas all look done nicely and I'm sure it will work just fine... but for $250 I guess I expect a little better fit-n-finish all around. Debating whether to call them and send it back.
...is it just mine, or is the machining on the curved sections of the legs a bit sub-par? Big chatter marks up and down the top and bottom - to the point it looks almost serrated.
The 'critical' areas all look done nicely and I'm sure it will work just fine... but for $250 I guess I expect a little better fit-n-finish all around. Debating whether to call them and send it back.
Keith Glasscock
Gold $$ Contributor
Yours looks a little better than mine. I agree that the finish could use a little work, but it does shoot well. I'm not sure the extra $50 for the vetical adjustment was worth it, but I haven't shot it on an actual mound yet - I'm relegated to concrete and plywood for now.
memilanuk
Gold $$ Contributor
Talked to Sinclair this morning... apparently thats the 'finish' that all of them have. Something about the shop these are done by saying that thats just an unavoidable side-effect of cutting on a curve - which sounds somewhat hokey to me; looks more like someone has the feed rate set too high. But... I guess that its not going to get any better by sending it back for replacement, so I might as well put it thru its paces.
I will say that I am very pleased that they put scales on the legs... that was something I was wishing for on the Gen 2 but it never happened.
I will say that I am very pleased that they put scales on the legs... that was something I was wishing for on the Gen 2 but it never happened.
Keith Glasscock
Gold $$ Contributor
If you decide to keep it, take a sharpie paint pen (very fine tip, oil based paint) and paint in the marks on the legs. They can be a lttle hard to see in direct light.
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