New RR actions

[urbanrifleman]

I'm very happy with several RR Remington 700 actions and have found them decent. With a little work and some careful indicating very little material needs to be removed to true them up. Here is a 700 that although I replaced the bolt and trigger still has the factory barrel. I for one think the RR recievers are a great deal.

I see you tested Varget in 243. On a whim I tested AR comp in mine. It's a tick faster than Varget with 80 Bergers.

Oh crap!! It worked!!

 

[BJ44BJ]

Well its actually a factory take off 243 barrel that I re chambered to 6 dasher, but my point is that 700 actions that are trued can shoot with the best of them.

 

[Knotwild]

What about the action used in the rifle below. Note the first line of key features. My guess is it is strictly a marketing ploy.

https://www.remington.com/news/2019/remington-model-700-nra-american-hunter

 

[Nightraider]

What about the action used in the rifle below. Note the first line of key features. My guess is it is strictly a marketing ploy.

https://www.remington.com/news/2019/remington-model-700-nra-american-hunter

I've found that actions with barrels installed from the factory have the worst issues. Mainly deformed face and threads from whatever amount of torque and metal treatment has been applied.

 

[muleman69]

Well its actually a factory take off 243 barrel that I re chambered to 6 dasher, but my point is that 700 actions that are trued can shoot with the best of them.

What bolt and trigger did you go with? Did the factory bolt not shoot or were you just changing head dimensions?

 

[BJ44BJ]

I just replaced the bolt with a Pacific tool and guage one piece bolt. I really like the .062 firing pin especially when shooting the dasher and the bolt bodies are round and easy to true, unlike the factory Remington bolts that many times are extremely loose and not even round. I replaced the trigger with a Jewel.

 

[Nightraider]

I just replaced the bolt with a Pacific tool and guage one piece bolt. I really like the .062 firing pin especially when shooting the dasher and the bolt bodies are round and easy to true, unlike the factory Remington bolts that many times are extremely loose and not even round. I replaced the trigger with a Jewel.

FYI, a cone bolt on an AICS pattern magazine will feed br/bra/ Dasher like buttery goodness.

 

[Thauglor]

Do all these improvements apply to the long action? I am needing an action for a 6.5x55 build

 

[Nightraider]

Do all these improvements apply to the long action? I am needing an action for a 6.5x55 build

I haven't had a LA to check, but one would "assume" so.

 

[Ksracer]

How is the owner of PTG responsible for Big Green improving the quality of their action, and if he is, would it be possible for him to kick his own ass into fixing some PTG's issues also?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

How is the owner of PTG responsible for Big Green improving the quality of their action, and if he is, would it be possible for him to kick his own ass into fixing some PTG's issues also?

 

[Ledd Slinger]

@Dusty Stevens thread got me off topic, the primary extraction sucks on three R700s as does the bolt fit, but the fact is the action themselves have come lightyears from the last prefix. I think we need to thank @Dave L Kiff for kicking big green into the future. This was one I did today, right from the box, indicated in with a .0001" Interapid. The face runout was .0003". The pitch depth was a perfect 1.023" with zero taper in the threads and the lugs were out under .0005". All in all I've seen high dollar custom actions worse than this.

Ok. Action is true, but extraction and bolt fit suck... That's two sucks to one good thing. Lol.

It's all fine and dandy that the one 700 receiver in the video is straight, but the BOLT is the most critical part of an action.

You can have the straightest receiver ever made. With a bad bolt body fit, poor extraction, bad trigger timing, firing pin drag, and poor lug contact, etc... it's still gonna "suck" (in your words) until all those things are corrected

 

[jimmymac]

That old video is awesome. Thanks.

 

[Nightraider]

Ok. Action is true, but extraction and bolt fit suck... That's two sucks to one good thing. Lol.

It's all fine and dandy that the one 700 receiver in the video is straight, but the BOLT is the most critical part of an action.

You can have the straightest receiver ever made. With a bad bolt body fit, poor extraction, bad trigger timing, firing pin drag, and poor lug contact, etc... it's still gonna "suck" (in your words) until all those things are corrected

You're correct, but the bolt is a lot easier to fix than a reciever.

 

[dolek]

^^^^ Nailed it .

 

[centershot]

I was shopping about five or so years ago, and because I hadn’t bought a new rifle in forever of course the go to was Remington’ well after manipulating a few at the local gun counter I was horrified at the sloppy rough gruff action.
This SS action doesn’t look that bad actually but what do I know.
Hell I bought a Tikka for a hunting rifle and a Savage for a range rifle/project.

Always have been a Remington person but also went to Tika and Savage for the same reasons.

 

[centershot]

What about the horror stories I have heard about the drilling and tapping of scope base holes? Many shooters wrote about them being off center.

 

[Nightraider]

What about the horror stories I have heard about the drilling and tapping of scope base holes? Many shooters wrote about them being off center.

I've found a lot of people who claim they're off center, are off center themselves. Bad setups, bad machines, bad measurements. The fact is the receiver itself is polished with a belt grinder, which has more I'll effect than the holes being .002" off center.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

You're correct, but the bolt is a lot easier to fix than a reciever.

No its not. Timing/tight welding a bolt handle, truing the bolt face to the receiver, timing the trigger, reaming and bushing the FP raceway, amongst other things takes longer than chasing threads and truing up the face and abutments on a receiver.

Plus the recoil lug almost always needs to be replaced because if you use the factory lug, it makes the truing job on the receiver face all for nothing.

Remington needs to know that they are putting out actions that have a lot wrong with them. Shouldn't have to do that much work to them. Most other factory actions dont have the issues Remington does.

 

[David101]

A Rem 700 action I have has the issue of when you tighten down the Pic rail screws the rail pulls across so much that when you fir a scope it is 20 MOA to one side. To fix the issue the rail had to be bedded onto the action before the screws were tightened.