NEW Dtac 115????

[Phil]

It is customary for me to completely miss the boat, so if i have, please forgive me.....

Has the .620 BC been confirmed on Tubbs New 115 Dtac?????

The long neck Dasher brass and this bullet are interesting to me.........

Phil.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Phil, I have been keeping up with the threads on the new 115 DTAC. Good information is rolling in, it is an improvement on the old ones. I have been shooting the DTAC since the beginning, and will continue to do so. I like what I've read, especially from Tubb's.

 

[Phil]

Phil, I have been keeping up with the threads on the new 115 DTAC. Good information is rolling in, it is an improvement on the old ones. I have been shooting the DTAC since the beginning, and will continue to do so. I like what I've read, especially from Tubb's.

Good to hear Don, thanks for the reply.

Phil.

 

[Sniper338]

When are these suppose to be available?

 

[swd]

As soon as you can get Tubbs your credit card info

 

[Grimstod]

I see a Long Dasher in my future with these bullets. By the way the Long Dasher is a wildcat formed from the 6.5x47, not the new bullets.com stuff from Norma.

 

[Mulligan]

I see a Long Dasher in my future with these bullets. By the way the Long Dasher is a wildcat formed from the 6.5x47, not the new bullets.com stuff from Norma.

What do you get out of a long dasher that a dasher doesn't provide?
Mulligan

 

[Grimstod]

What do you get out of a long dasher that a dasher doesn't provide?
Mulligan

About another 300fps. And similar accuracy.

 

[DukeDuke]

About another 300fps. And similar accuracy.

WOW!!! That equals the 105s at 3400+fps, it has to be fun.

 

[Mulligan]

About another 300fps. And similar accuracy.

Buckets!
That's hauling the mail.
I guess I was napping when the long dasher came out?????

 

[swd]

I shoot a 6x47L Improved. Just because the 47 case is stupid strong and will live at crazy pressure and speeds doesn't mean you want to push things that fast. Unless you own stock in Bartlein or Krieger and own and know how to use your own lathe there ain't no free lunch here. Push a 107 at 3300-3400 and you'll build a 6.5x284 for it's better barrel life.

 

[Grimstod]

Whats lost is the low recoil when you switch to a 6.5-284. Also I would see these as having identical barrel life, if not a little longer with the Long Dasher because of the 40d shoulder.

 

[swd]

Whats lost is the low recoil when you switch to a 6.5-284. Also I would see these as having identical barrel life, if not a little longer with the Long Dasher because of the 40d shoulder.

Come on by and you can take look at my 6x47 Imp through my Hawkeye. I'm not talking speculation, I'm talking from first hand expierence. 30, 40 or 90 degree shoulder, it doesn't matter, you push this thing hard and the barrel will go away, fast. But by all means if you don't believe me, build one. You can push new DTAC's at around 3200 with 4350 or RL17, for a while anyways.

 

[Erud]

Whats lost is the low recoil when you switch to a 6.5-284. Also I would see these as having identical barrel life, if not a little longer with the Long Dasher because of the 40d shoulder.

How would the recoil be less if both are launching the same projectile at the same velocity?

 

[Grimstod]

How would the recoil be less if both are launching the same projectile at the same velocity?

We are talking about 6mm bullets. Not 6.5mm

 

[dkhunt14]

About another 300fps. And similar accuracy.

This is not true. The 1000 yard BR guys build everything available looking for an edge. They have shown up with a lot of 6x47 and every one has disappeared off the firing line. The Dasher just plain outshoots it. Now a few 6.5x47's have shot real well. These are facts coming from a club that shoots 80 plus light guns and 60 heavy guns every other week. Go to 600 yard IBS Nationals or 1000 yard Nationals and look at the equipment lists. I am not saying a 6x47 is terrible but they don't out shoot Dashers in proven competition. Matt

 

[Grimstod]

This is not true. The 1000 yard BR guys build everything available looking for an edge. They have shown up with a lot of 6x47 and every one has disappeared off the firing line. The Dasher just plain outshoots it. Now a few 6.5x47's have shot real well. These are facts coming from a club that shoots 80 plus light guns and 60 heavy guns every other week. Go to 600 yard IBS Nationals or 1000 yard Nationals and look at the equipment lists. I am not saying a 6x47 is terrible but they don't out shoot Dashers in proven competition. Matt

I wpuld never say the 6x47 is as accurate as the dasher. It plainly is not.

Now the Long dasher however is a doferent storry. It has the same wide accuracy nodes as its parent but bring extra performance.

 

[swd]

I wpuld never say the 6x47 is as accurate as the dasher. It plainly is not.

Now the Long dasher however is a doferent storry. It has the same wide accuracy nodes as its parent but bring extra performance.

They don't share the same parent cases. The Long Dasher's parent case is a 6.5x47 and the Dasher a 6BR. Don't let the names confuse you, they are very different critters that just share a common shoulder angle and base diameter.

If it were as accurate, Matt and a whole bunch of other BR guys here would be all over it. Now for F/High Power, PRS and other diciplines that don't require the absolute in accuracy, I think it could be an excellent cartridge at reasonable velocities. DTAC's up to 3100 and 105-107 up to 3200 maybe slightly more. That's pretty incredible ballistics from a 6mm, especially from a case smaller than a 243. It's right in line with a 284 shooting 180's. That's nothing to sneeze at.

I reccomend you build one. The "Long Dasher" is basicly an AI type with the same neck/shoulder as the parent 6x47L and there are several more improved versions with the original short Dasher neck and the shoulder blown forward which is what I shoot.

 

[Bill Bowers]

They don't share the same parent cases. The Long Dasher's parent case is a 6.5x47 and the Dasher a 6BR. Don't let the names confuse you, they are very different critters that just share a common shoulder angle and base diameter.

If it were as accurate, Matt and a whole bunch of other BR guys here would be all over it. Now for F/High Power, PRS and other diciplines that don't require the absolute in accuracy, I think it could be an excellent cartridge at reasonable velocities. DTAC's up to 3100 and 105-107 up to 3200 maybe slightly more. That's pretty incredible ballistics from a 6mm, especially from a case smaller than a 243. It's right in line with a 284 shooting 180's. That's nothing to sneeze at.

I reccomend you build one. The "Long Dasher" is basicly an AI type with the same neck/shoulder as the parent 6x47L and there are several more improved versions with the original short Dasher neck and the shoulder blown forward which is what I shoot.

Not familiar with a "long Dasher" does anyone have a drawing of one by chance?
Thanks
Bill Bowers

 

[Grimstod]

Bill the Long Dasher is based on the 6.5x47 Lapua, It has a 40D shoulder instead of a 30D. It also has less case taper and games about 2gr of capacity or about 150fps over the standard 6x47. Here is a drawing and photo.