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New Bergara 22rf bolt gun

Called context: straight as in no feed ramp. Even the vudoo has the cartridge at a slight angle from what I can tell


My Vudoo feeds straight into the chamber. Every Vudoo does. None are at an angle.

Its a function of how the bolt strips / grips the round out of the mag before it gets to the chamber.

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If it is Bergara infringing on Vudoos patent, I hope Vudoo sues the pants off Bergara. That kind of patent infringement is basically a financial/technological attempted murder.
 
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Who freaking cares about the b-14, I saw the group it produced at 50 yards with Tenex..I have 12 gauge shotgun the holds a tighter group! Good luck with the B-14


22rf being so ammo specific, Ive seen $4,000 guns that wont shoot some ammos. Seems like some guns like Eley stuff and some guns like Lapua stuff.

I'll give it a chance... *unless* It was patent infringement and then I will rip into it.
 
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I said doubt it's wind as if you look at the groups they are fairly round but open. Not what wind would usually do. I would bet ammo.
there was a shift in the placement of the group.. alabit it is a small one, but one that wind could effect. Hence why i said "wind"..
 
If you search 22LRMarksman on instagram you can watch the test and it is with the bolt gun. He even mentioned about the differing lots of ammo can make a difference.
 
My out of the box CZ457 printed better groups than that... with Midas + after testing over a dozen ammos. .
 
I would be more interested in how the action is set up and if it is truly 700 compatible. You might be able to get into a decent action fairly reasonable on the used market in the next cpl years though I would bet there are other actions available by then.

I realize people are trying to duplicate PRS guns as trainers but my personal feeling is get rid of those big gawdy ass magazines. Design a robust and reliable magazine and lose the full size AICS type mags. Surely bottom metal designed to handle a realistic sized magazine can not be that hard to design.
 
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Plenty of .22 rifles with little skinny magazines. Those AICS style mags are easier to handle when actually having to do mag changes and not just sitting at a bench. They also open up more stock and chassis options. The Vudoo mags are robust and reliable.
 
I love the AICS mags. I hate the little skinny mags of most RF bolt guns. They were a big part of my decision to buy the Vudoo.... robust, functional, easy handling mags - along with their unique feed system.
 
My Vudoo feeds straight into the chamber. Every Vudoo does. None are at an angle.
They start off at an angle is what I am saying! Here is your proof. The picture is from their website, I got as close as I could using the editor on my phone.
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Here are the best videos I could find showing the vudoo picking up the cartridge. https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=315398785630606&_rdr
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The round is at an angle in the magazine, which is exactly what I said in my earlier post and is just like my tikka and anschutz 54 repeater.

Because the round sits at an angle in the magazine, the projectile has to make contact with the chamber somewhere to straighten out. At 1:36 in the YouTube video, the cartridge does exactly the same thing as my anschutz. It needs to make contact at the front so it can pivot around the front to swing the rim of the cartridge below the extractor hooks.

On my tikka, as the bolt is pushing the round out of the magazine, the projectile makes contact with the top of the inside of chamber and then pops up and goes straight into the chamber. That is what I am seeing in the vudoo videos and what I see in the in my anschutz. To me, nothing revolutionary in the vudoo but maybe it is not in those videos.

I wasn't paying attention to where the rim goes in front or under the extractors.

I am not for nor against either rifle. The courts will decide the patent because they will have all the facts money can buy. Too many crazy patents out there for me to blindly side with vudoo when they are the only ones saying anything to the public and have a vested interest in showing facts that support their cause only; which is what I would be doing as well if I was in their shoes.

They won the social media war already. Even if the courts decide the patents shouldn't have been granted because of prior work, many people wont see it that way and the popular narrative will see be: big Bergara with lots of $ picking on the little custom builder.
 
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PLEASE... block me. ASAP.

I own a Vudoo. You don't. Yet you run your mouth and actually contradict the owner of Vudoo who manufactures the rifle.

Block me. NOW. Please.
 
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Maybe irrelevant to this thread, but my ancient Mossberg 46B(b) has true controlled round feeding. Cartridge goes in chamber completely straight. I took a neat, short video but can’t get it to upload. Ingenious design for its age.
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