Need advice on rifle build

[Jm32526]

Getting ready to have a rifle built. Probably going with McMillan stock, Krieger barrel, and I have a Remington 700 LA chambered in .270win donor receiver. I am also going to get into reloading. I plan on target shooting about 50%, 30% varmint hunting, and 20% deer hunting. I would appreciate any suggestions. I am leaning towards 7wsm.

 

[effendude]

You have the wrong bolt face for a magnum cartridge. I love my 6.5x284 rifles, and and I'm building a .284 Shehane. Both cartridges excel in a long action where you can make use of the case capacity and the longer bullets. Deer and targets will quiver.....
Scott

 

[ChrisNZ]

If your use was more directed at deer, I'd suggest a .280 or Ackley version. It'd be a bit much for extended varmint sessions though. A 6.5-06 might be a good compromise if you can tolerate a non-std chambering

Chris-NZ

 

[Erik Cortina]

Build a 284 Winchester and never look back!

 

[fullersson]

I would build a slow twist .308win. Very accurate, long action will allow you to feed from mag and still be into or near the lands, the light bullets you would have to shoot would be good for varmints and pretty good for deer, and the .308 cartridge is good for 800 yards (probably a little less with the light weight bullets). Brian Brown.

 

[Nomad47]

For 50% target, 30% varmint, & 20% whitetail, there is one bullet will do it all - the 6mm 105 AMax. Steel, paper and varmints out past 1000 yards, whitetail to 500 yards and a little beyond. For cartridge, lots of choices including but not limited to; 243 wssm, 243, 243 AI, 6mm Rem, 6mm AI, 6mm-284. Just be sure and get enough twist.

 

[Jm32526]

Wow! I didn't realize how fast the responses would come in. Thank you all!! This is my first chat on this website. One other cartridge I have been looking at is the 7mm-08. Any serious issues with that?

 

[Erik Cortina]

Wow! I didn't realize how fast the responses would come in. Thank you all!! This is my first chat on this website. One other cartridge I have been looking at is the 7mm-08. Any serious issues with that?

7mm-08 is an excellent caliber.

 

[Jm32526]

I would assume I can still use my .270 action for the 7mm-08.

 

[Rem06]

yes,

if deer is involved i would use something at least in the 6.5 or 284cal

where varmints and tgt also, i would nod to the 6.5cal

260Rem with 140Amax or bergers would fit very nice for everything

i am using a 6.5x47Lapua with 140 Bergers for tgt/varmints deer and (antelope kill out to 655 and 855yds) so far.

 

[fullersson]

7mm-08 is good to go. Brian Brown.

 

[Jm32526]

I need to switch gears just a bit. A buddy of mine has got me convinced to go with a .260rem. Does anyone have good info regarding the savage model 12 LRP in .260rem? I have never owned a savage but I have heard some decent things about them. I would still like to build a rifle, but I can get a savage for about 900 bucks and it has a good trigger, 26" SS fluted barrel and an HS precision stock. Any thoughts

 

[Erik Cortina]

I need to switch gears just a bit. A buddy of mine has got me convinced to go with a .260rem. Does anyone have good info regarding the savage model 12 LRP in .260rem? I have never owned a savage but I have heard some decent things about them. I would still like to build a rifle, but I can get a savage for about 900 bucks and it has a good trigger, 26" SS fluted barrel and an HS precision stock. Any thoughts

It does not have a good trigger and barrel will most likely need replacing to get stellar accuracy. So $900 for a stock and a Savage action is not really a deal. Friends don't let friends buy Savages! ;D

Stay with your original plan, you will be happier. Build a 260 with your current action if you want. 260 is also a good cartridge.

 

[Nomad47]

I've got to respectfully disagree, Erik. The OP did not say he was going to compete in f-class or BR with the rifle. So for what he wants to do, I think the Savage is more than adequate. I have a Savage 12 BVSS in 22-250, factory original, trigger under one pound (I've never tested actual pull), consistent, and smooth. Like your signature line, I'm the limiting factor and the gun shoots better than I can. I've shot .1s on a couple occasions with it.
The OP will have as much money spent on a Kreiger & the McMillan stock as he would on the complete Savage. And I'm willing to bet the Remington build won't out shoot the Savage - barrel length and twist being equal. Now if the Savage isn't available in the twist he wants, then its a moot point.

 

[Erik Cortina]

I've got to respectfully disagree, Erik. The OP did not say he was going to compete in f-class or BR with the rifle. So for what he wants to do, I think the Savage is more than adequate. I have a Savage 12 BVSS in 22-250, factory original, trigger under one pound (I've never tested actual pull), consistent, and smooth. Like your signature line, I'm the limiting factor and the gun shoots better than I can. I've shot .1s on a couple occasions with it.
The OP will have as much money spent on a Kreiger & the McMillan stock as he would on the complete Savage. And I'm willing to bet the Remington build won't out shoot the Savage - barrel length and twist being equal. Now if the Savage isn't available in the twist he wants, then its a moot point.

Question, for the same money, would you rather have? A custom rifle with a McMillan stock and Krieger barrel on a Remington action, or a factory Savage rifle?

For accuracy you need 3 B's. Brass, barrel, and bullets. With a factory Savage the most he can have is 2 B's.

 

[Redhighpower]

I would buy the Savage and go shoot. You will spend more than 900 dollars for the stock and barrel. Then you have the cost of Truing the action, fitting and chambering the barrel and of course the cost of bedding the action. If you build a rifle it will probably shoot better, but at more than twice the cost of the Savage. Buy the Savage, if you are not satisfied with the accuracy then sell it. Larry

 

[Erik Cortina]

I would buy the Savage and go shoot. You will spend more than 900 dollars for the stock and barrel. Then you have the cost of Truing the action, fitting and chambering the barrel and of course the cost of bedding the action. If you build a rifle it will probably shoot better, but at more than twice the cost of the Savage. Buy the Savage, if you are not satisfied with the accuracy then sell it. Larry

What if the Savage does not shoot? Then he would still need a new barrel. If you like gambling get a Savage, if you want a for sure thing, rebarrel your Remington.

The OP can have a Krieger barrel isntalled and get an HS Precision stock with aluminum V-block in it so no bedding required. All for $900.00 or less.

 

[glo]

Go with the .280 Ackley SAAMI Chamber. Use Nosler brass. Berger bullets for all shooting or Barnes for big game.

I would buy the Savage and go shoot. You will spend more than 900 dollars for the stock and barrel. Then you have the cost of Truing the action, fitting and chambering the barrel and of course the cost of bedding the action. If you build a rifle it will probably shoot better, but at more than twice the cost of the Savage. Buy the Savage, if you are not satisfied with the accuracy then sell it. Larry

What if the Savage does not shoot? Then he would still need a new barrel. If you like gambling get a Savage, if you want a for sure thing, rebarrel your Remington.

The OP can have a Krieger barrel isntalled and get an HS Precision stock with aluminum V-block in it so no bedding required. All for $900.00 or less.

Use the HS Percision stock with the aluminum V-block.

Dicth the Krieger barrel. Go with a PacNor (http://www.pac-nor.com/) 3 Groove, 1:8 twist, Stainless Steel, Super Match Grade, #6 conture. Be sure to specifiy POLISHED and check you conformation letter (email). The barrel will cost less than an over the counter Chrome-moly Krieger and you will get it in weeks not months. Let your gunsmith leave you the full 27" of Barrel. It will have exterior ballistics equivalant to a 7mm Remington Mag. without the extra cost and muzzle blast. The recoil is still the same, but maybe less due to the heavier barrel. Good trade off for varmint hunting; less recoil and longer lasting barrel.

P.S. There is no such thing as overstabalization of a bullet. Go with 1:8 you won't regret it.

P.P.S. If you have had overstabalization of a bullet start a new Thread, I'd like to hear about it. This dog can learn new tricks. By the by, my 7mm is 1:7. No problems with 140gr bullets at any range including 1000yds.

 

[deadlyswift]

What if the Savage does not shoot? Then he would still need a new barrel. If you like gambling get a Savage, if you want a for sure thing, rebarrel your Remington.

The OP can have a Krieger barrel isntalled and get an HS Precision stock with aluminum V-block in it so no bedding required. All for $900.00 or less.
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Got to agree with Erik here. Nothing against savage rifles. But all of my Savage rifles have been rebarreled. As well all but one of my Rems have too. In the long run you will be much happier and glad you didn't buy the Savage rifle for $900. If you buy a Savage or Rem. rifle. Like Erik said you still only have 2 Bs!

 

[Jm32526]

I have never shot a savage rifle and I have always wanted to have a gun built. I still have a scope to buy (nightforce 5.5x22 or Leupold vxIII) so I am trying to be reasonable given my budget. Unless I am mistaken a Krieger barrel, McMillan stock, Jewell trigger, gunsmithing, and some misc accessories are probably going to set me back at least $1500.00 w/o scope. that is my I am considering other options. I am also going to start reloading and I need to buy that stuff sometime in the near future. At some point I just need to make a decision but i appreciate the feedback.