Need a consistent powder measure!
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for powder throwers, hard to beat the big three,Hornady, RCBS, Redding) but if you have lots of money Prometheus is the cat daddy.
Electronic the RCBS is a nice unit, fairly accurate.
If you have a progressive press, Dillon is very good.
for throwers, just throw a little light and trickle in the rest if you are weighing each load.
Electronic the RCBS is a nice unit, fairly accurate.
If you have a progressive press, Dillon is very good.
for throwers, just throw a little light and trickle in the rest if you are weighing each load.
The powder measure you need is determined by the powder you're using and, of course, how picky you're going to be about the results you get. The common solution these days is to get an RCBS ChargeMaster Combo.
The Harrell measure is preferred by BR shooters because of its Culver metering system and the BR loading regimen. It is used with easily metered powders. No mechanical measure does a very good job with the stick powders. If you're shooting spherical powders, Harrell,and others similar to it), Redding, Hornady, etc., can give good results.
The Harrell measure is preferred by BR shooters because of its Culver metering system and the BR loading regimen. It is used with easily metered powders. No mechanical measure does a very good job with the stick powders. If you're shooting spherical powders, Harrell,and others similar to it), Redding, Hornady, etc., can give good results.
I have four measures, Harrell's BR, RCBS, Dillon and the Lee Safety.
With small/fine powders the Harrell is better by far then the others. But recently I loaded some large stick powder and found the Lee Safety to do the best job.
Jim
With small/fine powders the Harrell is better by far then the others. But recently I loaded some large stick powder and found the Lee Safety to do the best job.
Jim
I have a doubt about your Lee measure being compatible with RCBS's stand; Lee stuff doesn't conform industry norms. If you want a trickler, the Redding, being heavy, is the desirable one. I use one with the Lee dippers.
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I did some experimenting using my old Ohas beam scale, my new RCBS 1500 Chargemaster and a set of certified laboratory digital scales. I was surprised at the variance with my Ohas Beam scale. I was equaly surprised how good the RCBS 1500 was. I have played around with the timing and speed variables with the RCBC and gotten the best of both worlds, +/- .05 and 8-11 seconds.
Can't do that with a Beam scale. or a Measure and triclkler.
Nat Lambeth
Can't do that with a Beam scale. or a Measure and triclkler.
Nat Lambeth
I also have found a variation in reading on beam type scales, plus its a hassle to trickle in to one. But with a good electronic scale, and throwing them at about 0.5g light, it doesnt take long to trickle an accurate load, and time I have.
No its not as easy or fast as using an RCBS 1500 CM, but its as accurate, and costs a lot less.
I made up small test weights for my most common powder loads, so there's no question about my electronic scales accuracy. All of my charges are the same as my test weights.
And some powder measures have problems with 4064, they often have to cut some grans in half, and its a hard powder, so I use Varget instead.
Mike.
No its not as easy or fast as using an RCBS 1500 CM, but its as accurate, and costs a lot less.
I made up small test weights for my most common powder loads, so there's no question about my electronic scales accuracy. All of my charges are the same as my test weights.
And some powder measures have problems with 4064, they often have to cut some grans in half, and its a hard powder, so I use Varget instead.
Mike.
I've read reviews on the RCBS chargemaster and people seem very pleased with the accuracy. Although I always thought a beam scale was like the gold standard for measurement and back up. Sounds like the stick powders like 4064 do not work well in throwers. Is Alliant's Reloader 15 a stick powder also?
Beam scales are the gold standard for weight, but it only take a bit of dust in a knife edge, or on a beam, and your accuracy goes out the window. And there as sensitive to air movement as an electronic scale, or more so. Maybe that's why real good units are all under glass.
I would guess that most people that use an electronic scale had a beam scale before, and still have it. I do, and when making my load weights, I would check them on both, as well as I have a set of test weights just for checking scales.
All three scale types will make accurate loads, its all in how many rounds you load, how easy it is to use, and how fast you want to get your loads weighed.
Mike.
I would guess that most people that use an electronic scale had a beam scale before, and still have it. I do, and when making my load weights, I would check them on both, as well as I have a set of test weights just for checking scales.
All three scale types will make accurate loads, its all in how many rounds you load, how easy it is to use, and how fast you want to get your loads weighed.
Mike.
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