NBRSA 18” barrel length minimum?

[xr650rRider]

Amazing that ChatGPT has access to nBRSA rules discussions that took place more than 60 years ago. I would argue that all 4 points are wrong.

If they have ever appeared online, it does. Your on record now for disagreeing with AI..........your on a list now.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Per ChatGPT

That rule goes back to the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934. The NFA (enacted June 26, 1934) defines a short‑barreled rifle (SBR) as a rifle with a barrel less than 16 inches (or an overall length under 26 inches). Rifles with barrels shorter than 16" are therefore regulated under the NFA (registration, tax stamp, transfer restrictions, etc.).


If you want, I can summarize how the NFA requirements work today (registration, tax, penalties) or outline differences between SBRs, pistols, and other classes — or dig up citations, but I can’t run a live web search right now unless you want me to (I’ll note any sourcing limits).

No need on my behalf. I do believe you're correct, that it was the NFA that did it. I stand corrected. Thanks

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I agree that short barrels can be obnoxiously loud, but is there really a difference between 16” and 18”? 90% (tens of millions) of the AR’s come standard with 16” barrels.

A little does go a long way but I can't say that's the reason or not...As I said though, I suspect it was a factor. There's a procedure for rule changes, should anyone wish to have it considered.

 

[omnivorous]

If they have ever appeared online, it does. Your on record now for disagreeing with AI..........your on a list now.

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Ha! I’m sure we are all on a bunch of lists. I posted the pertinent info on barrel length from board meeting minutes from 1964 on the first page of this thread. I used AHI.

 

[omnivorous]

A little does go a long way but I can't say that's the reason or not...As I said though, I suspect it was a factor. There's a procedure for rule changes, should anyone wish to have it considered.

Would you say it’s easier to change a 60 year old rule, or create a new category of competition?

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Would you say it’s easier to change a 60 year old rule, or create a new category of competition?

Honestly...neither are gonna be easy within org rules and memberships. But, either can be done if the membership thinks it's worthwhile. It'd probably be easier to start a new org. Lol!

It might be worthwhile to go back and look at IBS AR15 only class rules to see if they addressed it there...fwiw. It MIGHT at least give some semblance of precedence. Albeit, not a strong argument, as that class didn't fair well.

 

[DaveTooley]

Remember back then there were some shooting 308's . 40+ grs of powder vs 30 grs of the PPC. 2" of barrel was appreciated.

 

[omnivorous]

Honestly...neither are gonna be easy within org rules and memberships. But, either can be done if the membership thinks it's worthwhile. It'd probably be easier to start a new org. Lol!

It might be worthwhile to go back and look at IBS AR15 only class rules to see if they addressed it there...fwiw. It MIGHT at least give some semblance of precedence. Albeit, not a strong argument, as that class didn't fair well.

 

[omnivorous]

Remember back then there were some shooting 308's . 40+ grs of powder vs 30 grs of the PPC. 2" of barrel was appreciated.

Disagree. .222 Remington was the name of the game back then. 23 grains of powder.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

A little does go a long way but I can't say that's the reason or not...As I said though, I suspect it was a factor. There's a procedure for rule changes, should anyone wish to have it considered.

 

[DaveTooley]

Disagree. .222 Remington was the name of the game back then. 23 grains of powder.

Back then goes back further. One I know who shot a 308 was Donna Stekl later to become Donna Hall. Wife of Allan Hall the action maker. And there were others. In the very early days many were used in the unlimited class. Occasionally in the HV varmint class.

 

[omnivorous]

Back then goes back further. One I know who shot a 308 was Donna Stekl later to become Donna Hall. Wife of Allan Hall the action maker. And there were others. In the very early days many were used in the unlimited class. Occasionally in the HV varmint class.

Very familiar with Allan Hall. I own an 06 built on one of his actions.