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My story with Savage 12 LRPV in 6mm Norma BR

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Somewhere around 2015 I purchased this rifle for 400-600 yards at my hunt club target field. It lived in my safe for a couple years until I bought a new Leupold 35 X 45 scope which is perfect for my use with the rifle. Mounted the scope in nice solid bases and rings, purchased a $75 box of Lapua factory loads so I could use the brass, and off to the range I went.
I could not get the rifle to hit paper, and I was at a 100 yard range that did not allow targets closer. I boresighted and fired. No holes in the largest target I had. I went to a friends house where i could start with a target 25 yards away. No holes, Moved the target closer and finally got a hole on the left edge of a LARGE paper posterboard. Started adjusting the scope to the right and hit the stops as far as the scope would go, still 16 inches left!
Is the problem with the scope, drilled and tapped mounting off center? Crooked barrel? Finally took a chance and sent the rifle back to Savage. A couple months later I got the rifle back with a work order but no description what was done. Same thing. Rifle shooting so far left I could not get it to center. Frustrated and anti Savage by now, I called Savage and ask WTH was happening. I sent the rifle back again and they rebarreled and finally, finally, I can shoot center of target.
Now that the rifle is shooting, I loaded some new Lapua cases starting with 30.0 grains of Varget over a 90 gr Lapua scenar bullet, shot 3 shot groups of 1 1/4 at 100. Started sneaking up on the loading length to the lands and at 31.5 grains same load i was shooting 1 inch groups. I know the gun can do better, the length of pull is a little long for me, but give me some loads of some of your tight shooting groups. Its been a long backstory with this rifle, and sorry to make the post so long. I think this rifle has the potential to do better, not sure about the shooter. :)

PS I have several Savage rifles so I'm not anti Savage, but was a little frustrated.
 
I have a bvss with a 6 BR IBI prefit 1/8. 41rds. 107 Sierra. H-4985. 29.6gr-2890fps at Zero degrees. At 50F it was too much but shot decent. So far I think it likes Fed205 over 450’s and Winchester.
 
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I have that same model. 105 Gungnir's at ≈2750 fps. Lapua brass, CCI 450, 29.8 Varget, 105 Bart's Gungnir's, .017" off. Shoots very well
 
Late now but a set of Leupold windage adjustable base might have addressed your issue. I use them on a lot of my rifles and center the windage knob on the scope then use the mounts to center the shots. This gives me equal travel both left and right in the scope.
 
I had the same issue when I rebarreled my original 6mmBR F-Class rifle (one of the first Savage produced) with a new Criterion. It turns out the original barrel on the rifle was bent after final assembly at the factory. The replacement barrel laid in the stock channel off to one side and despite opening up the stock channel, my NF BR scope didn't have enough windage to center the shots. The original barrel had a definite wobble when rolled across a flat surface. The problem was solved with a $20 aftermarket barrel nut from Northland Shooters.

I swore from that moment on, I'd never buy a Savage again. When a manufacturer bends a barrel out of straight instead of replacing a $2 barrel nut, they lost me.

Scott
 
I owned a LRPV in 6BR many years ago. Had th 8 twist barrel and was a right bolt left port. I actually owned 2 of them. The first one had a nice ring cut in the barrel about 1/4" in from the muzzle. That one went back to the dealer and was promptly replaced with another. I looked at the new rifles barrel and you could see the pitting in the bore with the naked eye, but I thought I'd give it go.

75gr Vmax jammed with 36gr of varget had the gun shooting in the 3s. I shot a real screamer group at 400 yards that was under 1/4". It was easily (along with my Sako P94S varmint) the most accurate factory rifle I've ever owned that had no reason to shoot that well. It didn't eject the 6br cases very well, use to turn them around in the chamber instead of spitting them out. That used to frustrate me and I didn't use it half as much as I should have. I ended up selling that rifle and I often wonder if I should have. Enjoy yours.
 
I had a good friend buy a Savage 110 in 300 WM with the same issue. He sent it back to Savage and they fixed it.

Savage, Remington, and Ruger seem to be okay with sending out a lemon as all of them have disappointed me with their lack of QC in the last 10 years.
 
Yep, the last factory Rem I bought sucked. Placing a New Unfired pc. of Lapua brass in the chamber and closing the bolt it was smearing brass from the case headstamp. Chambering was awful. Remington Cust. Serv. said if I would shoot factory ammo my issue would go away. LOL. Wonder what I told him ?

Forgot to mention once I fried it with a mild load I had to beat the bolt open.
 
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rsbhunter said:
That's one I'd like to hear about....seriously...rsbhunter
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You couldn't see the bend in the barrel with the naked eye, but rolling it on a true flat surface, you could see the bend. Jim ran Northland Shooter Supply in Buffalo, MN, about 30 minutes away from my home. When I described the issue after installing the new Criterion barrel, he chuckled and handed me the barrel nut. He stated he had many customers with similar issues. I had bought both the 6BR and the 6.5-284 F-Class rifles when they first were released. I put 20 MOA rails on both rifles and had identical NF BR 12-42X scopes on each. I couldn't zero the 6BR at 100 or 300 yards, about 8 MOA high. I ended up putting a 10 MOA rail on the problem rifle and that solved the zero issue. The rifle was used as a loaner for the league I ran as well as shot by many shooters out to 600 yards. After rebarreling, with a new nut, this rifle has shot many cleans at 600 yards. The design is quite good, just Savage's QC was suspect on the original barrel.

Until I replaced the worn out barrel, I didn't realize that there was a barrel issue. I just assumed the receiver top was maybe out of tolerance. This was a long time ago, I've learned much about precision rifles and how they should perform. As a OTC shooter transitioning to the new game of F-Class in 2006, I had much to learn. These Savage rifles were the first production F-Class rifles, labeled as F-Class rifles. They were a huge leap forward from a converted OTC rifle or a hunting rifle.
Scott
 
effendude said:
You couldn't see the bend in the barrel with the naked eye, but rolling it on a true flat surface, you could see the bend. Jim ran Northland Shooter Supply in Buffalo, MN, about 30 minutes away from my home. When I described the issue after installing the new Criterion barrel, he chuckled and handed me the barrel nut. He stated he had many customers with similar issues. I had bought both the 6BR and the 6.5-284 F-Class rifles when they first were released. I put 20 MOA rails on both rifles and had identical NF BR 12-42X scopes on each. I couldn't zero the 6BR at 100 or 300 yards, about 8 MOA high. I ended up putting a 10 MOA rail on the problem rifle and that solved the zero issue. The rifle was used as a loaner for the league I ran as well as shot by many shooters out to 600 yards. After rebarreling, with a new nut, this rifle has shot many cleans at 600 yards. The design is quite good, just Savage's QC was suspect on the original barrel.

Until I replaced the worn out barrel, I didn't realize that there was a barrel issue. I just assumed the receiver top was maybe out of tolerance. This was a long time ago, I've learned much about precision rifles and how they should perform. As a OTC shooter transitioning to the new game of F-Class in 2006, I had much to learn. These Savage rifles were the first production F-Class rifles, labeled as F-Class rifles. They were a huge leap forward from a converted OTC rifle or a hunting rifle.
Scott
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Not to wear out the subject (I shoot 2 Savages, very accurate) , was it the barrel nut that was out of specification, or the barrel that was bent that caused the scope zero problem? Thanks, rsbhunter
 
rsbhunter said:
Not to wear out the subject (I shoot 2 Savages, very accurate) , was it the barrel nut that was out of specification, or the barrel that was bent that caused the scope zero problem? Thanks, rsbhunter
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My guess was that the original barrel and action were assembled with a bad nut and then "corrected" by bending the barrel. Savage used to proudly display a photo of a tech bending barrels "straight" in their catalog. A new nut from Northland solved the issue and the new barrel laid perfecting in the stock. As we were diagnosing the problem, we indexed the new barrel 90*, 180*, 270* from its original headspaced location and the barrel always laid crooked to the same side of the stock. The barrel nut must have been machined off its centerline axis. New nut installed, barrel laid in center of stock channel
Scott
 
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