My Farmer Isn't Poisoning This Year!!!!!

[jds holler]

Talked to him on the phone the other day, and WHOOHOO!!! Alfalfa is growing fast, and I can't drive on it, but it's still low enough to see the rats, and some places sparse enough to make it easy. Went out this afternoon with the 20 from heaven, and had a nice time of it.

Parked the Jeep and walked about a hundred yards out.

Set up this bitchin old tripod --

and proceeded to eradicate a bunch of little hay-burners. Range was basically 100-300 yards, although I sploded a few around 50. I suppose my kill rate was about 75%.. With the tripod, it's pretty shaky beyond 200, and I miss a few.

Here's a surgically precise brainectomy.

 

[K22]

Oh, the animal right people are going to love you.

Nice shooting!

 

[Darkside]

Good for you. That's Nice

 

[Rube Shooter]

Good shooting.
The head shot looks like an irrigation trench scooped out of the cranium.

 

[jpjulian]

Oh, the animal right people are going to love you.

Nice shooting!

On this web site?

 

[NorCalMikie]

If you POISON, you kill the rats, the coyotes and the hawks/eagles that eat them.
Rather shoot "without the poison" and let the birds eat what they want.
But then there's that lead thing? Not thinking you'll be finding any bullets in those dead creatures. Lucky there's anything left for photos.

 

[K22]

On this web site?

I doubt it.

 

[jds holler]

I'd like to mention, and hear from you other guys, concerning ricochets with various cartridges. With my 20-222 shooting 32 gr V-max, I NEVER hear a ricochet. Took my 10-22 out there the other day, and it sounded like a shoot-out in a western movie.
My farmer has a particular field that he would like us to shoot, but it's only 1 square mile, with surrounding roads, barns, and what-not. I just can't bring myself to shoot there, but I've seen others doing it. I drove over there yesterday to check it out and there was piles of HMR brass. jd

 

[RegionRat]

My farmer has a particular field that he would like us to shoot, but it's only 1 square mile, with surrounding roads, barns, and what-not. I just can't bring myself to shoot there, but I've seen others doing it. I drove over there yesterday to check it out and there was piles of HMR brass. jd

Sooner or later.... if folks keep that up there will be one of those incidents with a shallow shot using something with too much bullet that doesn't come apart.

About the only type I can think of that is worth the risk in a field like that is one of the types that are considered frangible like the Barnes Varmint Grenades with the copper-tin cores that disintegrate.

These were designed for preventing ricochete and splash for MIL and LEO training. The outfits that did them discovered they made a fair varmint round with very low risk. And they make them in 20 cal too.


We use these near orchards, irrigation, outbuildings, etc. so that there is less risk of any damage from a pass through or bounce. They come apart pretty easy on rats and squirrels but I have even used them to kill coyotes and racoons.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

RegionRat....agree with the Barnes Varmint Grenades. I use their 30gr HP in my K-Hornet and get great velocity and terminal effects that rival a 223 shooting 40gr BT's or Varmageddon's on chucks and ground squirrels. No 'leaky' irrigation pipes either.

JDS: With all this rain at present, the alfalfa will shoot up beaucoup quick now, so with no poison, that field will be rat utopia soon, so get out for them while you can still see 'em! Remember the pics....we love pics!

 

[snert]

Talked to him on the phone the other day, and WHOOHOO!!! Alfalfa is growing fast, and I can't drive on it, but it's still low enough to see the rats, and some places sparse enough to make it easy. Went out this afternoon with the 20 from heaven, and had a nice time of it.

Parked the Jeep and walked about a hundred yards out.
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Set up this bitchin old tripod --
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and proceeded to eradicate a bunch of little hay-burners. Range was basically 100-300 yards, although I sploded a few around 50. I suppose my kill rate was about 75%.. With the tripod, it's pretty shaky beyond 200, and I miss a few.

Here's a surgically precise brainectomy.
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SNERTED!

 

[jxb]

I'd like to mention, and hear from you other guys, concerning ricochets with various cartridges. With my 20-222 shooting 32 gr V-max, I NEVER hear a ricochet. Took my 10-22 out there the other day, and it sounded like a shoot-out in a western movie.
My farmer has a particular field that he would like us to shoot, but it's only 1 square mile, with surrounding roads, barns, and what-not. I just can't bring myself to shoot there, but I've seen others doing it. I drove over there yesterday to check it out and there was piles of HMR brass. jd

@jds holler When we used to go over outside Crane (1990's before all the changes) most of the land owners wouldn't allow 22lr if there was pipe or circles, they were sick of the holes. We always shot high power with hollow point or BT and almost never any ricochets. That said we were pretty anal about shooting where we had a hill behind. Later years they started using the elevated platforms over there so 22lr wasn't as much an issue around the center pivots and pipe in general. We always used our benches on the field. 17HMR would be fine too, anything with HP or BT type expansion we shot some of that too when we got our first ones.

Pretty much the only place we used our 22lr (10-22's) was close up, like <50feet? just walking around so the angle was steep and no ricochets. We really didn't shoot a lot, that ammo was mostly just for if we ran out highpower. I can't say how many times I took cases of mostly the same bricks both ways on those trips. lol

@Rick in Oregon yeah it's May, in a couple weeks it will likely be 12" high and too hot as well IMO anyhow.

 

[chuckshooter]

I'd like to mention, and hear from you other guys, concerning ricochets with various cartridges. With my 20-222 shooting 32 gr V-max, I NEVER hear a ricochet. Took my 10-22 out there the other day, and it sounded like a shoot-out in a western movie.
My farmer has a particular field that he would like us to shoot, but it's only 1 square mile, with surrounding roads, barns, and what-not. I just can't bring myself to shoot there, but I've seen others doing it. I drove over there yesterday to check it out and there was piles of HMR brass. jd

I think ricochets happen more often than most shooters think. I use electronic earplugs and if it makes a sound, I can usually hear them. For the most part, hearing a ricochet means the bullet has been distorted, but, there can be many more that you don't hear. One time I was shooting in a freshly plowed field and I was surprised to see how many bullets bonce several times and throw up dust off in the distance. I think 22rf are the worst at ricochets and since my main reason for shooting is to see Skippy fly, I don't take them along anymore. Most varmints bullet are designed to come apart on solid impact, In the last few years, I have had more kills on bystanders than I have with them lined up. This year has been a great year for me, many targets and close shots, many multiple kills, but there have been missed shots. I hope they all went into the dirt and stayed there.

 

[snert]

I can attest to the Varmint Grenade just turning to dust. I shot quite a few 200 yard groundhogs and crows with it one year on ground that showed bullet bounce (which is why I went to them for that farm). I would see a cloud (like as if the bullet turned to a million little bb's ) of dust if I happened to hit grass between my target and me. For 200 yard shooting it does it's job. The BC sucks however.

 

[jds holler]

Man, I'm glad I got out there on Friday. Yesterday it socked in and snowed for half the day, and today it's like a freezing hurricane out there. I sometimes wonder who would live around here. jd

 

[Fern]

Sooner or later.... if folks keep that up there will be one of those incidents with a shallow shot using something with too much bullet that doesn't come apart.

About the only type I can think of that is worth the risk in a field like that is one of the types that are considered frangible like the Barnes Varmint Grenades with the copper-tin cores that disintegrate.

These were designed for preventing ricochete and splash for MIL and LEO training. The outfits that did them discovered they made a fair varmint round with very low risk. And they make them in 20 cal too.

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We use these near orchards, irrigation, outbuildings, etc. so that there is less risk of any damage from a pass through or bounce. They come apart pretty easy on rats and squirrels but I have even used them to kill coyotes and racoons.

My friend loaded some up in 223 for p dogs and they were not impressive. Some punched a hole like fmj and others performed as advertised.
We noticed the actually exoloded if you hit them in the gut but neck up they just put a hole.