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most popular bullet for 6.5 creedmoor ?

How do you get a 130 Gr (or heavier) bullet to seat in the neck of a 6.5 Creedmoor so that the base of the bullet is above the neck/shoulder junction and still fit in a short action magazine. Are you guys using long actions with the 6.5 Creedmoor? Please explain.

I don't have a 6.5 Creedmoor but I do have some Rem SA 700's with the Wyatt's extended mag box and that'll allow you to run an OAL of nearly 3.0 in a SA 700.
 
Does Berger make a 130 hybrid that does not appear on their website? I am shooting the 130 VLD, but keep reading references to a 130 hybrid. Would someone please teach me the secret handshake so I can buy some?
3rd Generation Shooting Supply has close to 600 boxes of these bullets featured on their home page.
 
6.5 CM is an AR10-length cartridge, in a gas gun, and similar OAL to a .260 Rem or .308 Win so it’s a mag-length short-action for most bullets in a bolt gun. Maybe you were thinking about a 6.5 Grendel, which can fit an AR15 magazine with the right length bullets.
The question referred to seating heavier bullets so that the base of the bullet is above the junction of the neck / shoulder. Although factory Creedmore ammo has the bullets seated to fit a short action magazine, they are not even close to having the base of the bullet above the junction of the neck / shoulder. It is true that some of the factory loads are remarkably accurate, but this is a poor situation for handloading.
 
The question referred to seating heavier bullets so that the base of the bullet is above the junction of the neck / shoulder. Although factory Creedmore ammo has the bullets seated to fit a short action magazine, they are not even close to having the base of the bullet above the junction of the neck / shoulder. It is true that some of the factory loads are remarkably accurate, but this is a poor situation for handloading.

The bullet base above the neck-shoulder junction? There are very few cartridges indeed that can accommodate modern long-tail BT bullets in that position, and it is in fact regarded by some as a sub-optimal bullet position to have the tapered tail section hanging in the bottom half of the neck. The ideal is to have the bullet shank / tail section junction on or just above the neck / shoulder junction and the Creedmoor does that pretty well on the whole, much better than the longer case 260 Rem, although not as well as the shorter case 6.5X47 Lapua. (Or for that matter, the 6.5X55mm.) That ranking only applies to the 6.5X47L chamber if it is throated to accommodate the longer 140 HPBTs. Many rifles are chambered with getting on for 100 thou' less freebore to suit 123gn bullets loaded to COALs around 2.65 inches.
 
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The bullet base above the neck-shoulder junction? There are very few cartridges indeed that can accommodate modern long-tail BT bullets in that position, and it is in fact regarded by some as a sub-optimal bullet position to have the tapered tail section hanging in the bottom half of the neck. The ideal is to have the bullet shank / tail section junction on or just above the neck / shoulder junction and the Creedmoor does that pretty well on the whole, much better than the longer case 260 Rem, although not as well as the shorter case 6.5X47 Lapua. (Or for that matter, the 6.5X55mm.) That ranking only applies to the 6.5X47L chamber if it is throated to accommodate the longer 140 HPBTs. Many rifles are chambered with getting on for 100 thou' less freebore to suit 123gn bullets loaded to COALs around 2.65 inches.

This factory 140 grain load measures 2.811 overall length and has about .250 bullet length below the junction of the neck shoulder with about .110 of that being bearing surface (shank). I would be happy with this bullet seated to about 2.950. This requires a longer magazine and yes, a longer than standard throat. The 6.5 X 47 Lapua is the easier and for me the best solution.
 
I’m convinced if there were a 210 gr 6.5 bullet that took a 3 twist to stabilize somebody shooting a creedmoor would stuff it all the way to the primer if they had to. :D
 
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I’m convinced if there were a 210 gr 6.5 bullet that took a 3 twist to stabilize somebody shooting a creedmoor would stuff it all the way to the primer if they had to. :D

Probably! :)

Bear in mind though that Lapua which is generally regarded as being a pretty competent and sane outfit has a 7.62X39mm factory round in its military ammunition listings that sees the company's 200gn 1.34" long FMJBT replace the more common 123gn model. The round is guaranteed to fit standard AK, Valmet etc type magazines and cycle their automatic actions. I've always thought the bullet base must be sitting on the flash-hole outlet in this one! (The equivalent weight mark-up on a 140gn 6.5 would take it to 227.6gn!)

It is of course a subsonic loading for special forces, but it goes to show that unlikely, or even apparent joke combinations, are sometimes less absurd than they seem at first glance.

Come to think of it ..... if you'd suggested 20 or 25 years ago that 308 Win shooters would be routinely using 200s and some competitors selecting 230s, you'd have been regarded as a bit weird.
 
Not all factory rifle magazines are limited to the 2.800 ish cartridge OAL I have found that the Savage DBM rifles will handle a COAL of slightly more than 3.00". This would help on your needs on the CM
 
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This factory 140 grain load measures 2.811 overall length and has about .250 bullet length below the junction of the neck shoulder with about .110 of that being bearing surface (shank). I would be happy with this bullet seated to about 2.950. This requires a longer magazine and yes, a longer than standard throat. The 6.5 X 47 Lapua is the easier and for me the best solution.

As long as the combo is accurate and gives you he velocity needed what does it matter where the bullet is in the case? That's not an actual question but a rhetorical one. Having shot a lot of 140 Creedmoors I know the answe is that it doesn't matter.
 
I believe what Roeder meant was the "heel" of the bullet is best seated forward of the shoulder/neck junction. The "heel" and the "base" are two different parts of the bullet, with heel being the aft end of the bearing surface (also the base on a flat based bullet) and the base is the aft most surface of the bullet.

Seating the bullet with the heel forward of the neck/shoulder junction precludes a condition where a donut forming at the neck/shoulder junction can adversely effect neck tension.

Whether or not that loading condition is possible and the cartridge still fit within a particular magazine is a determining factor for any particular chamber/bullet combination.
 
Personally, I have been shooting the Nosler RDF 140. My rifle likes them at 2.861coal/2.220ogive (.005 otl)
Im using the Lapua SP brass with 41.4 of H4350 and CCI 450s. Speeds are about 2775 at temps in the 40s
They have a fantastic BC (.658) and have done well for me at 1000.
 
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I have yet to find a 139-142 bullet loaded with H4350 that would not shoot sub MOA in my rifle. The best were sub 0.5MOA and included Lapua 139's, Sierra 142's, Barnes 140's, Hornady 140 A-Max's, and Berger 140 VLD and Hybrids. I only hope the new barrel is as non picky.
 
just starting to get components and want to shoot from 500 to 1000 yards, with H4350 I guess and wonder what bullets work for accuracy in handloads,

sure there are lots but what is being used in competitions like PRS and some fclass (although not popular in f-class one would think)

Jeff
I like the 147 gr eldm and the 150gr Sierra MK...with a lot of RL 26 they'll shoot as fast at the light lower BC 140 gr. bullets. But mostly ya gotta shoot whatever ya choose... alot...practice with purpose. Today I was hitting at 800 and 850 with a AR 15 in 300 Blackout with 150 gr Sierra Tipped MK and Berger 168 gr ya gotta really dial the elevation 42 MOA to start...about the worst long range caliber, ever...but it was fun. So you'll have no problem with the 6.5 Creedmoor, with the match bullet your barrel likes...and practice.
 

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