+1 for this sort of method.
Graphite powder in a jar mixed with fine lead shot.
Inside and outside lubed.
Jab case neck into the mix...........done. Adds 1 second/case to the reloading process.
Most Consistent Case Lubing Method?
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Graphite powder in a jar mixed with fine lead shot.
Inside and outside lubed.
Jab case neck into the mix...........done. Adds 1 second/case to the reloading process.
Jet
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Imperial wax on your fingers and apply a light coat to the body of the brass.
IMO with the Dasher I've never found the need to lube inside the case necks but I don't clean inside the neck either and always leave carbon residue inside and that provides the best lube/coating. Testing various methods led me to doing it this way.
Good shooting
Rich
IMO with the Dasher I've never found the need to lube inside the case necks but I don't clean inside the neck either and always leave carbon residue inside and that provides the best lube/coating. Testing various methods led me to doing it this way.
Good shooting
Rich
Geronimo Jim
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I would think Mobil 1 would be a PIA to get off the case.
I use imperial wax and it wipes off easily with a paper towel.
I use imperial wax and it wipes off easily with a paper towel.
I'd recommend also trying one of the microfiber cloths, the ones that come in a multicolored pack at HF. They're dirt cheap, last a very long time, and do a great job.
A paper towel with some brake clean works
I clean my dies with it along with the bolt any way. Larry
I've used synthetic motor oil and, speaking only about lubrication, it's hard to beat. Pour a bit in the oil bottle's cap, dip the case neck in (~1/8"), next 5 to 10 cases need no lube. Some cases need a side wipe similar to waxing them. If a 1 hour tumble in walnut is a PITA, then it is a PITA to get off.
Stopped using it only because the waxes (eg Unique) are good enough, and they are used by more folks under more conditions for a much longer period of time with no issues.
not for the volume reloader but often while i am at the range waiting for my barrel to cool or while others are posting targets i deprime and clean my cases with a rag moistened with ballistol. then put them in a ziplock. when i get home cases are deprimed, cleaned and lubed and ready for sizing. ballistol makes a good sizing lubricant.
Gave up on Imperial wax after too many dented shoulders, case bases not sized right. Friend (veteran long-range competitor & accomplished, big-name gunsmith) recommended this stuff.
I found a nice poly storage container (~ 10"w, 14"l, 2-1/2" deep w/snap-on lid) & package of 1" white foam padding mat'l @ Walmart for $12, cut a piece of foam to fit container & applied lube.
Worked it in.
Lid keeps it clean. 50 cases get dumped in, each rolled a little before sizing. Can do 50 .308 cases in 10 minutes.
You want it inside necks? Push each case into foam a little before placing in press.
Washes off w/water (I add a bit of Dawn) or damp cloth.
dented shoulders with imperial sizing wax? obvious operator error. just a tiny bit on your fingers applied lightly to the case body. you don't even lube the.shoulders or neck with it. that is what imperial dry neck lube is for.
Isn't that how most reloaders do it ?
Worked that way for 60 plus years with me.
Stops most oil dents also lol Larry
My reply is directed at your original question. I have a similar requirement as you describe and here is how I do it. I have a model B rotary tumbler and I take a large coffee can and place a bead of RCBS or similar water soluble lube on the inside of the coffee can. I add 100 308 or 150 223 cases to the coffee can and tumble for about five minutes and the cases have a nice uniform covering of lube. If I am in a hurry I do not even tumble them, I just shake them for a minute or so and it works just a well. Some of the lube will wind up inside of the neck but not much and that is no problem, I have never lubed the inside of the necks for sizing, 50 years of reloading, several hundred thousand pieces of brace and a wheel barrow of shot out barrels worth of experience.
Sit down with about 100 to 300 cases and a Hornady or equivalent shoulder bump comparator.
Start resizing your cases with your normal process. Measure each case immediately after you size it so you have some memory of the force required. If you have small variations in the lubing technique, the speed of the resizing stroke and the dwell at the top of the stroke you will find small variations in the head to datum length (I will call it HDL).
These small variations will be about .002 max but if you are hasty and sloppy you might cause .003 variation. You can almost entirely eliminate these variations by taking a little more time.
1. Size the cases slowly. This gives the brass more time to creep to a common location.
2. At the top of the ram stroke let the ram dwell to a count of say 4 to 5 seconds.
3. Lower the ram 1/2 inch and spin your case 120 degrees in the shell holder. Then resize slowly again and repeat the dwell again. Then lower the ram, spin the case one more time for 120 degrees and slowly size again with the dwell.
All of these motions give the brass more dwell time at the top of the stroke. The added strokes help to minimize spring back of the brass. Do this and your FL sized cases when sized at one session will all have the exact same shoulder bump length and your ammo will improve. If for some reason you have to remain in a hurry you will have to live with variation in your cases. The lube technique is not all of the problem. The problem is the single stroke sizing and the variations in speed. These variations combine with the lube variations to create varying head to datum lengths.
Most people cannot believe that they cause this kind of variation when resizing. Use the caliper and the bump gage to help you identify what is causing it and how to get rid of it. If you want consistent HDL you have to have a consistent resizing process and that means SLOW and REPEATED WITH DWELL.
Start resizing your cases with your normal process. Measure each case immediately after you size it so you have some memory of the force required. If you have small variations in the lubing technique, the speed of the resizing stroke and the dwell at the top of the stroke you will find small variations in the head to datum length (I will call it HDL).
These small variations will be about .002 max but if you are hasty and sloppy you might cause .003 variation. You can almost entirely eliminate these variations by taking a little more time.
1. Size the cases slowly. This gives the brass more time to creep to a common location.
2. At the top of the ram stroke let the ram dwell to a count of say 4 to 5 seconds.
3. Lower the ram 1/2 inch and spin your case 120 degrees in the shell holder. Then resize slowly again and repeat the dwell again. Then lower the ram, spin the case one more time for 120 degrees and slowly size again with the dwell.
All of these motions give the brass more dwell time at the top of the stroke. The added strokes help to minimize spring back of the brass. Do this and your FL sized cases when sized at one session will all have the exact same shoulder bump length and your ammo will improve. If for some reason you have to remain in a hurry you will have to live with variation in your cases. The lube technique is not all of the problem. The problem is the single stroke sizing and the variations in speed. These variations combine with the lube variations to create varying head to datum lengths.
Most people cannot believe that they cause this kind of variation when resizing. Use the caliper and the bump gage to help you identify what is causing it and how to get rid of it. If you want consistent HDL you have to have a consistent resizing process and that means SLOW and REPEATED WITH DWELL.
Mix 99% alcohol with pure lanolin using a 12:1 ratio in a spray bottle.
Put your brass in a ziplock bag, spray 4-5 shots in bag, and seal and roll brass around getting an even coat.
Next step is forget about anything you have ever used before as this the best case lube you will ever encounter.
Put your brass in a ziplock bag, spray 4-5 shots in bag, and seal and roll brass around getting an even coat.
Next step is forget about anything you have ever used before as this the best case lube you will ever encounter.
RCBS or Redding lube pads work for me. I put 10 cases on at a time of either BR, 284, 300wm etc, role them to cover with lube, put them in a container then put another 10 on and repeat with how ever many i need to size.. then size.. Quickest, most effective way i have found.
Cheers Rushty
Cheers Rushty
waltk
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I haven't done this yet but it's coming up real soon.
I started using the mix at home method when I started small body resizing 5.56 and 7.62 LC cases. For those who haven't done that it's some of the hardest resizing there is IMHO.
After seeing the benefits with that brass I stopped buying the other commercially available case lubes/waxes and used this exclusively.
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