Most accurate powder measurer??

[mram10]

I want to be able to throw powder from the thrower into cases quickly and accurately. I own a standard rcbs that seems to throw loads differently when it cuts a grain. Is there a more accurate one out there??

 

[fredhorace77]

sure there is. but with any of them i have found that your technique of throwing has more to do with getting an accurate charge than any other variable. i added a heavier handle to my redding thrower and can keep benchmark,varget,H4895 within .2 grains. perfect for my use. but probably not acceptable for 1000 yrd. BR. before i added the heavier handle i was only able to keep it around .4grains. as i learn to be more constant i can get closer and closer to often throwing them within .1gr. Harrells powder measures are great and honestly the redding line is not a bad choice for the money. a friend of mine has been throwing with a lee powder thrower for 21 years and his technique allows him to stay at .1-.2 grains. he does great with it. and it didnt cost him much when he purchased it.

http://www.harrellsprec.com/

BTW IMO if u intend to throw IMR 4350 or "like" powder forget it. ull always be cutting grains no matter what brand u buy.

 

[BoydAllen]

I have been able to throw the best with my Harrell's (with a lot of parctice and a rather complicated technique, and with an old SAECO Micro-Measure (actually three of these). To develop my technique and consistency took a lot of time using an accurate scale to monitor what I was doing. As the previous poster wrote, some powders throw better than others, and some will never throw to close tolerances. That is why the RCBS Chargemaster has become so popular for a number of applications.

 

[Patch700]

.... go with a harrells. ... That way you won't have to wear a brown paper bag with cut outs over your head in the event your shooting buddies pop by while your throwing charges.

I could drive to work in the same amount of time and burn the same amount of fuel in a nissan titan as opposed to my Silverado but there again.. I don't like wearing brown paper bags with cut outs lol.

 

[Outrider27]

I got fair charge accuracy by working on my technique with my RCBS measure, as described in several posts above, then I had Homer Culver build me one of his measures, and it was a significant improvement when combined with the techniques I had learned. To get that measure now, you buy a Harrells. But remember that it is somewhere between difficult and impossible to get real consistency (less than +/- .1 grain) with powders where you end up cutting sticks - for that it's throw light onto your scale and trickle. On the other hand, charge to charge consistency when throwing most ball powders from a Culver/Harrells has to be experienced to be believed, which is why I'm happy that several of my rifles like 748. ;D

 

[CJ6]

The larger the grain of powder the more crunching you're going to get. RCBS Chargemaster, Lyman, Hornady (electric throwers)etc. work well (some better than others)for the larger (slower) powders as well as the finer grained ones. If the price is too much for one of those units use the Lee dippers and a trickeler and with practice it goes pretty darn good.

 

[MrMajestic]

Have you added the baffle to your RCBS? I get very good results with mine using it. I also only use the small barrel as it throws about 60 grs. of H4350 with the micrometer adjust units. Granted I still throw a tenth to two low and finish up with the battery powered(forget name) dribbler. Obsessive–compulsive disorder? Come on, we all have!

 

[amlevin]

I could drive to work in the same amount of time and burn the same amount of fuel in a nissan titan as opposed to my Silverado but there again.. I don't like wearing brown paper bags with cut outs lol.

That's funny. I drive a 10 year old Nissan Titan and it has had a fraction of the recalls and problems the Silverado's have.

I don't need to wear the bag, the only part of my head the Silverado drivers see is the back of it after I pass them.

FWIW, the Coax press enjoys it's popularity for the same reason that Chevy's do. Everyone else has one so people just have to have one too.

I prefer my Summit Press (and Titan).

 

[Syncrowave]

Have you added the baffle to your RCBS? I get very good results with mine using it.

Same here.

I get accuracy to +/- 0.1 to 0.2 grain with everything from IMR8208 (almost like dust) to H1000 (like rip-rap in comparison).

 

[Pappy42]

For me and my total lack of finesse and technique; my Neil Jones delivers the most consistent charge.

I own or have owned just about all of the various brands of measures, and the Jones and Harrels work the best for me. I don't load any ball powders, so I don't have a clue what works for them.

 

[deadwooddick]

+1 for the Jones modified Lyman measure.

 

[Matt in Virginia]

FWIW, the Coax press enjoys it's popularity for the same reason that Chevy's do. Everyone else has one so people just have to have one too.

Sheep dip...

The Co-Ax is in a class of it's own is the reason folks are buying them. When I bought mine 14 years ago no one around here used them. They came up with all sorts of reasons they did not like the press before they had seen it closer than 10 feet. When the "old dogs" got a chance to run the Co-Ax they started quietly buying them...

They've now become so popular that it is hard to find them someplace that is not BACKORDERED. Buy what you want, use what you want, but don't talk schit about something based on a defense of your pickup truck. That is, well, slightly retarded...

Matt.

 

[40X Guy]

Love my Forster Coax press, love my Neil Jones powder measure and especially love my 1994 mint Chevy Silverado. ;D

In all seriousness Neils powder measure is very reliable when loading quantities of .223 using ball powders. I try to use same throw method and weigh about every 10th charge. I have had 4-5 other powder measures and Neils is tough to beat. Pricy but works well. For all my other calibers, I get charge to about .1 to .2 under desired weight and trickle to final weight with the Omega trickler. All powder measures will cut grains of log powder but the roughest powder I throw thru Neils measure is 4831SC..

Frank

 

[mikecr]

I want to be able to throw powder from the thrower into cases quickly and accurately.

Well despite the thread heading throwing in itself isn't measuring.
But as far as I know the Prometheus is still the most accurate charging system. An older model: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Prometheus-Precision-Powder-Scale-Measure-Dispenser-W-Case-Works-Great-/111139002873
Many(like me) enjoy charging using RCBS ChargeMaster. It's as accurate as any thrower could be assumed: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/772151/rcbs-chargemaster-1500-powder-scale-and-dispenser-combo-110-volt
I get down to single kernels with mine(as modified).

 

[Matt in Virginia]

Well despite the thread heading throwing in itself isn't measuring.

Is throwing not measuring by volume?

Regards, Matt.

 

[carlsbad]

I use a 30 yr old RCBS to throw into the pan before sitting it on the Sartorius and trickling the last few graings to get to the closest .010 grains. The weighing step takes less time than the electronic automatic powder throwers.

The RCBS thrower, once I get it dialed in, will throw within 10 grains of the desired charge.

--Jerry

 

[Brians356]

I've been thinking about a BR-30 lately, looking for a used one, but some of the comments here are not encouraging. To me, "+/- 0.1 to 0.2 grain" really means "+/- 0.2 grains", which really means (to me) that the extreme spread is going to be 0.4 grains. Yes?

 

[CatShooter]

I've been thinking about a BR-30 lately, looking for a used one, but some of the comments here are not encouraging. To me, "+/- 0.1 to 0.2 grain" really means "+/- 0.2 grains", which really means (to me) that the extreme spread is going to be 0.4 grains. Yes?

I have a BR-30 and love it... with ball, or very fine grained stick (H-322, Benchmark) it is maybe 1/3rd of a tenth - with larger stick, it is ~0.07 about 90% of the time, and I throw back anything that feels like it is cutting - and for critical stuff with large grain powders, I drop and trickle.

I did replace the magnets in the scale with stronger magnets and that helps a lot in speed of reading when I trickle.

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[BoydAllen]

I have good news for the .30 BR crowd. LT 30 is on the horizon, and it will be easy to throw to a real +- .1 or better. I know this because it is the same size and shape as LT32 and I have considerable experience throwing that. Lou Murdica has told me that in his testing it gives significantly better velocity than 4198 with no pressure signs.

 

[Brians356]

I've been thinking about a BR-30 lately, looking for a used one, but some of the comments here are not encouraging. To me, "+/- 0.1 to 0.2 grain" really means "+/- 0.2 grains", which really means (to me) that the extreme spread is going to be 0.4 grains. Yes?

I have a BR-30 and love it... with ball, or very fine grained stick (H-322, Benchmark) it is maybe 1/3rd of a tenth - with larger stick, it is ~0.07 about 90% of the time.

Now that sounds more interesting. Thanks.