Mixing brass of the same lot number

[Doug Casner]

I didnt give away any secrets . Because I dont know any. The building I worked in is history. It was WW2 and korea, vietnam vintage anyway. They got new ways of doing things now. Doug

 

[Webster]

I wish we could poll the top ten benchrest shooters over the past few years. See what they do.

Video by some of the best shooters cover case prep. Some guys are just chasing their tail. Just do what the top shooters do and try to reach their level.

 

[Doug Casner]

I agree 100 per cent. A world champ benchrest shooter told me I was doing stuff that didnt matter anyway. At 1 or 2oo yds . Work on your ability. Get a good shooting rifle. Shoot often and forget the stuff that dont matter anyway. Doug

 

[JFrank]

There’s a lot of stuff that doesn’t matter at short range. Define your mission because long range is a different animal.

 

[Doug Casner]

Never shot longrange. Always wanted to try it. No place around here to shoot long range. Used to go down to the river till they made that a crime. And dont call me boy. Doug

 

[JFrank]

Catch phrase aside, the fact remains that many things do not show up negatively on short range targets that most definitely affect performance at longer range. Case capacity being one of consideration and worthy of time spent when ensuring that consistency is not left in the reloading room. The original poster could refine or narrow down responses if the title suggested short or long range input.

I’m not qualified to give advice but I’m willing to share or show my work regarding things that have bitten me in the ass more than once..

 

[Dave Way]

Although the brass may measure and weigh out favorably between two different lots, I never mix lot numbers. The reason being that the manufacturers of brass, barrels, bullet jackets etc. are at the mercy of their suppliers. They specify materials that must fall within a certain range, but each shipment can vary slightly and still meet the specifications.

If you have the ability to use one lot number, and extreme accuracy is your goal, my recommendation is to do so.

Dave.

 

[TackDriv3r]

Catch phrase aside, the fact remains that many things do not show up negatively on short range targets that most definitely affect performance at longer range. Case capacity being one of consideration and worthy of time spent when ensuring that consistency is not left in the reloading room. The original poster could refine or narrow down responses if the title suggested short or long range input.

I am into F class at 600 and longer ranges. I removed the Redding button because it pulls the necks out of alignment, once i went with the carbide mandrel with a separate die, neck run out was minimized greatly. I do benchrest as well.
I liked the way the Forster button sits higher up on the stem, and wanted to see if its compatible if I were to buy the Forster stem with the button and swap it out in my Redding non bushing and bushing dies.

 

[Doug Casner]

I gotta think that shooting a .250 agg and hitting a target at 600 yds. would both be tough to do. You can call me anything you want to with a smile on your face. Ill answer to boy. Doug

 

[JFrank]

I gotta think that shooting a .250 agg and hitting a target at 600 yds. would both be tough to do. You can call me anything you want to with a smile on your face. Ill answer to boy. Doug

If you notice my Avatar’ I live amongst predators, thus my signature following that theme. Nothing more nothing less.
Sorry for any confusion.
Jim

 

[Doug Casner]

No confusion, Jim, Doug

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

There’s a lot of stuff that doesn’t matter at short range. Define your mission because long range is a different animal.

Yes, but it's a two way street, too. I'm yet to see a short range match won by a long range rifle/shooter, but many have tried. Hence the Tack Driver match exists. Both are tough and both present different challenges but if I had to say which is harder to WIN at, no doubt in my mind, I'd say short range.

Just repeating something I was told years ago, so don't shoot the MESSENGER.. "Long range teaches ya how to load and short range teaches ya how to shoot". Again...just the messenger here. Few have mastered both, well.

Now, back on topic.

 

[JFrank]

Yes, but it's a two way street, too. I'm yet to see a short range match won by a long range rifle/shooter, but many have tried. Hence the Tack Driver match exists. Both are tough and both present different challenges but if I had to say which is harder to WIN at, no doubt in my mind, I'd say short range.

Just repeating something I was told years ago, so don't shoot the MESSENGER.. "Long range teaches ya how to load and short range teaches ya how to shoot". Again...just the messenger here. Few have mastered both, well.

Now, back on topic.

I would have to agree with your point of a two way street, I’m not a master or either one nor am I qualified to say which is more difficult, I just know what I see on paper at these different distances and certainly theres a different skill set practiced to be successful at each discipline.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I would have to agree with your point of a two way street, I’m not a master or either one nor am I qualified to say which is more difficult, I just know what I see on paper at these different distances and certainly theres a different skill set practiced to be successful at each discipline.

Well said and I totally agree. It's fun and that's what both are supposed to be. The rest is just talk. Bart has excelled at both but it's tough to think of another example that has truly done well at both. Both are still shooting but just very different parameters and reasons for them being what they are.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Yes, but it's a two way street, too. I'm yet to see a short range match won by a long range rifle/shooter, but many have tried. Hence the Tack Driver match exists. Both are tough and both present different challenges but if I had to say which is harder to WIN at, no doubt in my mind, I'd say short range.

Just repeating something I was told years ago, so don't shoot the MESSENGER.. "Long range teaches ya how to load and short range teaches ya how to shoot". Again...just the messenger here. Few have mastered both, well.

Now, back on topic.

I have always believed that every shooting Discipline has some “quirk” that is difficult to master and thus makes winning difficult.

 

[Dolomite]

From what a retailer told me is that they contacted Lapua and it has to do with packing date more than a specific machine run lot, but the same batch of brass is supposed to all be made at the same time. So you could be getting the same batch of brass mfg but packed on different days or dates. Not sure if that is true or not.

 

[rebs]

That said... you can do a whole lot worse than LC brass.
Before the importation of the better brass, we sorted and prepped LC and did just fine (if you ignored the extra work). Folks that missed that fuss don't know how good they have it now.

when did the importation of better brass start

 

[rebs]

Yes, but it's a two way street, too. I'm yet to see a short range match won by a long range rifle/shooter, but many have tried. Hence the Tack Driver match exists. Both are tough and both present different challenges but if I had to say which is harder to WIN at, no doubt in my mind, I'd say short range.

Just repeating something I was told years ago, so don't shoot the MESSENGER.. "Long range teaches ya how to load and short range teaches ya how to shoot". Again...just the messenger here. Few have mastered both, well.

Now, back on topic.

what yardages are considered long and short range

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

what yardages are considered long and short range

Generally speaking, 600-1000 is considered long range. Of course there's ELR beyond that. Short range is generally 100-300. I guess the 400-500 yard stuff is strictly left for hunting! Lol!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I have always believed that every shooting Discipline has some “quirk” that is difficult to master and thus makes winning difficult.

I agree Jackie. I somewhat agree with the statement I quoted above mostly due to loading having several absolutes...things to do that can be learned/taught, where the shooting aspect just takes time, work and a little bit of luck. Shooting itself, has but a few of those things and there's just no shortcut around putting in the time and effort to be at or near the top consistently. If long range was easy, all the short range guys would do well at it but it's just not that way, and vice versa.