Mark & Sam After Work (4AW on YouTube)

[davidjoe]

I wanted to express some appreciation here for a class act duo, a true husband and wife partnership and ultra long range “shooting team” in Australia, that you may have watched on YouTube. Mark makes and sells precision rifle accessories as well.

Last evening I saw a recent video uploaded about business challenges that got me thinking, these two really deserve some vocal credit and support. I emailed Mark and he replied that he isn’t on forums, but would welcome me sharing their information.

 

[Terry]

They are a great asset.

 

[dolek]

I had never seen them before,thanks for sharing . I just gave them a quick look, will surely be checking out their vids . I like their style .

 

[Jason_A]

I’ve seen their channel but never watched an episode. I’ll check them out.

 

[davidjoe]

They run the gamut, .22 LR at 900 yards to solid custom 50’s. Very open book with their processes. They don’t make it easy on themselves. Australia is windy, and that 24” inch swinging plate I believe is the largest target they ever use, even out at and past the two to three mile range. Amazing videography that is always able to clearly reveal the impacts.

 

[284winner]

Yep they are a great shooting team. I'll say one thing, they sure are patient. I've watched several of their vids. Recently the 338 lm vid at 3000 yards. Soooooo much wind. Hard to believe he even hit the plate. I think they did a 4000+ yard vid using the same cartridge but haven't seen it yet.

 

[davidjoe]

That’s a 24” by 24” inch plate that is less than 1/2 moa, at more than 5,000 yards from the rifle.

They captured in the photo the .50 cal bullet steeply angling downward and perfectly nose first. (Upper left corner of plate). Great stuff!

 

[Hohn]

That’s a 24” by 24” inch plate that is less than 1/2 moa, at more than 5,000 yards from the rifle.

They captured in the photo the .50 cal bullet steeply angling downward and perfectly nose first. (Upper left corner of plate). Great stuff!

Not just that but he's shooting a 15x or 25x optic out to 2500+.

 

[uda123cat]

I have been watching their videos since they started the channel. Their level of video production continues to develop to where they are now using drones to video the shooting and target positions. Mark makes a number of interesting products and does quite a bit of research into muzzle brakes, bipod/chassis interfaces, and a very nice and stout adjustable rear shooting rest for the prone or bench position. The reason I keep coming back to their channel is because Mark challenges multiple shooting dogmas with practical experience. He has a very interesting view of prone shooting positions with his approach clearly working for him. Mark is never "preachy" and quick to point out that what he has settled on is based on his experience and others may or may not find those ideas of use for them. Sam handles the sales and correspondences as well as spots for Mark who primarily though not exclusively shoots and makes his own products to sell. They have an outstanding "know your limits" 22lr target and a recently developed "drop down" reactive target. The only downside to Mark's products is the expense of shipping some of the more heavy metal works from Australia. Definitely worth checking out a few of their videos and no harm in subscribing. I have no affiliation with them, just enjoy shooting and watching someone push the limits with multiple caliber firearms way beyond the limits considered typical and learning from the collected data. Also good to see someone from "down under" proud to be a shooting enthusiast.

dan

 

[No i deer]

I've watched quite a few of these video's aswell..
With the 338 lapua magnum what is the desired neck tension that most would use..??

 

[338 dude]

I've watched quite a few of these video's aswell..
With the 338 lapua magnum what is the desired neck tension that most would use..??

I run about .002

 

[RDavies]

They run the gamut, .22 LR at 900 yards to solid custom 50’s. Very open book with their processes. They don’t make it easy on themselves. Australia is windy, and that 24” inch swinging plate I believe is the largest target they ever use, even out at and past the two to three mile range. Amazing videography that is always able to clearly reveal the impacts.

Luckily most of Australia is not windy, not a leaf moving where I am here getting ready to spot for a friend with his 338 Edge. We will likely only be shooting out to 2800yds but after watching these videos, will start looking for some longer shots, but likely limited to 4000yds

 

[SMK-1000plus]

I've watched Mark and Sam for years. I subscribed upon watching them the first time. Mark is very intelligent and extremely observant. His attention to detail, his resourceful nature and his problem solving skills are first rate. I have learned a lot from him and Sam. Mark can shoot extreme long rang better than any other shooter that I have ever seen, but make no mistake, Sam is capable of putting bullets on target at ranges most men wouldn't even consider attempting!

 

[davidjoe]

I've watched Mark and Sam for years. I subscribed upon watching them the first time. Mark is very intelligent and extremely observant. His attention to detail, his resourceful nature and his problem solving skills are first rate. I have learned a lot from him and Sam. Mark can shoot extreme long rang better than any other shooter that I have ever seen, but make no mistake, Sam is capable of putting bullets on target at ranges most men wouldn't even consider attempting!

In one episode he mentioned pretty firmly that they don’t have any plans to compete in ELR matches abroad. (Never Say Never, James). I believe that U.S. matches such as K2M were the unspoken context of that discussion. K2M is also on YouTube, and the targets are much larger. I have to think possibly none of them here practice more than Mark and Sam, and using only a 2’ x 2’. 3,000 yards has become their ”routine” distance, about 3/5 max. Yes, I’d pay admission to spectate that match.

I’ve watched a lot of these episodes, and I thought I sensed almost excitement in Mark’s voice (those that watch understand) with the 250 A-Tip. That bullet can be shot from a reasonably portable rifle. (I’m still playing with it in a .308 TR with H4350).

 

[No i deer]

Do they use a 338 lap mag in all there video's...??
The ones I watched were...
It's nearly time for me to have a 338lm.
I've been making enquiries .
What fl dies should I go for..?

 

[RDavies]

Do they use a 338 lap mag in all there video's...??
The ones I watched were...
It's nearly time for me to have a 338lm.
I've been making enquiries .
What fl dies should I go for..?

No, so far I have seen him use 22LR, 223, 6.5 Creedmoor, 300RUM, 338 Edge, 375 Cheytac and 50BMG with a few other larger calibre's in there as well. I think he does more of his ultra long work with his 375s and larger calibers.
He certainly has a good system worked out with his equipment, spotter and his drone footage. After watching his section on load development though I wonder if his hit probability would increase with more in depth load development and testing.

 

[No i deer]

Ok thanks

 

[6MMsteve]

They are fun to watch, been watching for about 3 years or so.

 

[6MMsteve]

Do they use a 338 lap mag in all there video's...??
The ones I watched were...
It's nearly time for me to have a 338lm.
I've been making enquiries .
What fl dies should I go for..?

you need somewhere to let it eat..at least 2000 yds or more

 

[davidjoe]

Ok thanks

I think a Sako TRG magnum length action that has been customized appears in some videos with different barrels. It probably started as an.338 Lapua Magnum. I’ve seen both a rigidly attached bipod used that appears to be a Sako which permits loading, and on the heavier platforms a sliding bipod, which I don’t believe the Fifty Caliber Shooting Association rules permit in matches, which tends in to imply it must work very well.