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March scopes

PowderMonkey,

EXCELLENT post!

I own several of all three; Leupold, Nightforce, and March.

They all seem to have a place in my heart.
 
When you are at the top level of competition trying to get any edge you possibly can, optical quality, pin point accuracy from shot to shot and repeatable adjustments should trump warranty every time. I don't think March is trying to market their product to the average guy shooting a few rounds a year. They are targeting a very niche market that wants exceptional optics and are willing to put out the money to get it.

If that isn't you or what you are looking for, than maybe one of the other manufacturers are going to be what you want.

As has been stated already, they are a small company selling a small number of high quality optics, they can't afford a lifetime warranty due to the small field of buyers they are trying to produce a product for.
 
JohnnyJohnson said:
butchlambert said:
Do you buy a scope for optics and performance or warranty?
Butch

Butch at the price these things go for there is no excuse you're not getting all of the above.

There is an excuse, and a good one at that. It's not cheap to produce top quality optics, and when you market it to a niche that is maybe 1% of the total market, putting a lifetime warranty on it and footing the bill for all repairs would kill the profit margin and drive the price up even further, and probably put them out of business.

You don't get a lifetime warranty with a Bugatti Veyron, but you get the fastest street car on the planet. It works the same in other markets as well.
 
Maybe not, but I'll bet they would cover any manufactures defect for any lenght of time. It's the, I dropped my rifle on a rock while trying to double fist beer while deer hunting two years ago routine they don't want. Home builders and car manufacturers can't control how many logs go into a fireplace or for awful kanawful to learn how many missed gears @150mph it takes to smoke a motor.
Another thing that would put a business under would be to produce something that isn't worth producing.
I'll also be if you rolled off the parking lot with a brand new Bugatti Veyron and found a hole in the seat when you got home, you would be expecting a warranty ;D.
My guess is that there will be no manufacturers defects on the March.
Jim
 
I'm a L-R shooter, and over the years I have had and competed with 8.5x25 Leupold LRT, NF-NXS 8x32 and a March 10x60. I have placed them all on a window sill focused them on a given object at 380 yds. and althought the March was the clear winner, it's cost was not comparitive to it's quality. Having said that, I shot a match this weekend that was VERY hot, (95.2 deg @ 0900 hours) with high humidity thrown in for good measure. When I came off the line I heard another shooter complaining about how it was so hazy that he had to lower his scope off 20 power to be able to see his target. I just smiled to myself and thought, that why you paid the money for really good glass. I was shooting my March on 40x and could have gone higher.
I hope this helps,
Lloyd
 
I talked to Kelby today - they said March manufactures about 1200 scope a year only!!! I was almost shocked with such a number. Yeah, March is close to those $1,000,000 exclusive cars! I can't afford such car - so maybe don't try to buy a $1,000,000 scope???
 
Wow, that is a small amount of product. I would have thought at least 10,000, but 1,200!

But just think of all the time they can invest into each piece. I would think with so few manufactured they would be able to go over each one thoroughly to ensure you are getting perfection.
 
March sent me one of their 2.5-25x42 scopes for review (should be done in 3-4 weeks), so I've looked into their scopes at some length.

They make very few scopes and they are all essentially hand-assembled by the same four engineers out of very carefully specced out components. I can't disclose numbers, but so far the return rate on March scopes has been incredibly low.

One of the reasons they only have a five year warranty is that there is some sort of a Japanese law that keeps the company's taxes low for as long as their production is limited to a certain number and the warranty falls in somewhere in there as well. If they offer a longer warranty and/or increase production, the company will fall under different taxation rules.

That having been said, I have heard that their warranty duration may be changing somehow, but that was not Kelbly or Deon, so I do not know how trustworthy it is.

ILya
 
I think the warranty is changing. Lifetime warranty on a $30,000 car. About all that will buy you is a Hyundai. They sure as h@ll don't have a lifetime warranty. You're not going to buy one anyway and know nothing about them.
Butch
 

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