March scope?

[Geronimo Jim]

My Nightforce scopes (all eight) have "Made in Japan" on them and they have lifetime warranty. ?????????

 

[22turborimfire]

Could it be the parts are made in Japan and assembled in the USA with the N/F????? Where as the March is made and assembled in Japan.

 

[Raythemanroe]

I wonder who makes NF glass? Would be funny if Deon was the maker same as March

 

[Raythemanroe]

The only March I have seen to date is the video on YouTube. I would like to add that when some people mention NF not being as good but close to German scopes, wouldn't you need a comparable magnification to really judge the difference? Same with March, I guess you would need to turn it down to 40x to compare kinda but how would NF glass or Ziess hold up at 80x that would be the question? Is the Marches 80x really usable and if so it must be darn good glass?

 

[Gabe]

I have Looked through a March scope many times and yes it has very Good Glass. The only problem that i have had with a March scope is the eye relief ,i find it harder to get back on target with the march scope than my Leupold comp. one other thing that bugs me about the March is the warranty. My NF and leupolds do have that advantage. Does anyone out ther really know just what exactly what type of internal Nob adjustments does a March scope has that is so much diff than a Leupold or a NF ?

 

[BoydAllen]

I will pass along one little piece of advice. Within the same brand, different models have different optical characteristics. If you are thinking about a particular model, make sure that you have done your homework on that specific model and magnification, and if at all possible have had the opportunity to play with one, at some length.

 

[mikecr]

I would lunge at any opportunity to look down a distant fence line with a March.
I've read where a varmint hunter switched from a March back to a Mk4, because he couldn't tell a rusty bucket from a rabbit at 900yds with the March.
From there the discussion went to differences in target -vs- field use, resolution, sharpness, contrast, brightness, field of view, color fidelity, freedom from chromatic aberration, etc. And then of course there is a lot more to consider in scopes than any single parameter like glass.
I don't know what's true, from BS, from hype.

I've compared MK4 and NXS with a mere viewing of fence lines, and found them to be equal in every regard glass-wise. I give them: GOOD ENOUGH
But in no way are either comparable in glass to something like Zeiss, Leica, or Swarovski. If you've convinced yourself that your NF has great glass, I suggest avoiding comparisons with other scopes, as I suspect you have.
IMO, nothing about NF, or Leupold, represents great glass.

 

[40X Guy]

I owned an 8-80 March and used it in matchs all of 2011. They are pretty much unusable over 60X in most if not all shooting conditions, and I usually ran mine at 50X and under. I'll second the fantastic clear glass but at 50X and under only. The scope tracked perfectly like no other also. I had another rifle built and needed a scope so I sold the March 8-80 and bought 2 NF BR 12-42's. You just can't go wrong with NF scopes.

Frank

 

[Lapua40X]

Looks like Kelbly has the exclusive rights to March in the U.S. . If there are any other U.S. sources and prices for March scopes must be the most carefully guarded secret on the Internet. Haven't been able to find any data on pricing except "prices available on request". Anyone have any direct knowledge on that subject?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I have looked through 2 8x80s, a 10x60, and shot with a 50x march. I own a Leupold competition and a NF 12x42. I was able to adjust all of them to my eye. I prefer the march eye relief, and parallax adjustments. The march glass is better. But not by that much.
Everyone I know that owns a march has said the same thing. They are better, but not a $1000 better. Actually the guy with the pair of 80's is not happy at all with them for the price he paid. I was really thinking about upgrading to a march untill I got to look through them, just not worth the extra money to me. I think the NF 12x42 br is the best value.

 

[40X Guy]

Looks like Kelbly has the exclusive rights to March in the U.S. . If there are any other U.S. sources and prices for March scopes must be the most carefully guarded secret on the Internet. Haven't been able to find any data on pricing except "prices available on request". Anyone have any direct knowledge on that subject?

When I bought mine, I drove over to Kelblys with the intention of buying the 10-60 March, but they had sold out of them. I looked thru the 8-80X and came home with that one. Kelblys is the sole US dealer and pricing can be found by calling them and asking for Ian Kelbly. He is a fantastic person to work with. If i were to do it again, I would hold out for an 10-60 model. More of a usable scope.

Frank

 

[6BRinNZ]

For FTR I reckon the March 10-60 would have to be very close to the perfect scope, excellent weight with very good optics and a very good mechanical rep...hard combo to beat in weight restricted classes.

 

[tenring]

I have several NF 12-42BR scopes, and a March 10-60. Both are very good, but IMO, the March is not worth nearly twice as much as a NF. BTW, I have had to send one NF back for repair. The March is now out of the 5 year warranty, and no problems. That warranty period is a deterrent for many potential buyers.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Thats a lot of money for a shit warranty, I would probably go Nightforce just for that reason.

 

[Geronimo Jim]

Thats a lot of money for a shit warranty, I would probably go Nightforce just for that reason.

That's pretty much my feelings.

 

[Jay Christopherson]

To paraphrase a movie: I can take a crap in a box, slap a lifetime warranty on it, and all you'll have is a lifetime guaranteed piece of crap.

Warranty has nothing to do with the quality of the product. Do some research -- there is a specific reason why the warranty is 5 years and it has nothing to do with what the company would prefer to do.

If warranty is more important to you than the quality of the product, then by all means, buy a NF or Leupold or something. Nothing wrong with those products. But they aren't in the same class as a March.

 

[22turborimfire]

As a 8 x 80 owner I have heard good reports on different issues regarding these . But warranty was not a dividing factor with purchase . While I personally think the March's are a superior product I'm sure many will argue to differ . I would recommend you to shoot with what ever is comfortable fit wise and pocket wise .Weither Leupold , Night/Force or March . I never would have purchased the March if i was worried about it being deffective I'm sure Deon Optical will resolve the matter if arrises. In a timely fashion.

Jim W

 

[Raythemanroe]

How would a Schmidt & Bender Scope 12-50x56 PM II P4F Compare and how is there warranty?

 

[Killshot]

Oh, the hilarity of the scope threads.....

Don't know where to start - so I won't....but there's a whole lot of Wrong happening here.

 

[Elwood]

How would a Schmidt & Bender Scope 12-50x56 PM II P4F Compare and how is there warranty?

To my eyes the glass is equal, the March leaves the S&B dead in the water in every other department.

As already stated S&B has a 2 year warranty, that's not to say that they wouldn't replace parts after the warranty has run out? I would expect the same from Deon.