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Major breakthrough on 22 K Hornet loads

I fell in love with the 22 K Hornet, but until today it didn't love me back. I tried load recipes from all quarters and nothing did all that well. The best I had found was 10.9 of LilGun with a 50gr Spire Point BT that was about MOA at 50 yards.

While trying to put 34 gr flat bottom bullets into PRVI annealed cases I noticed just how off center the points were ( I'm using a Forster CoAxial press with micrometer RCBS bullet seating die). Closer examination of the case necks showed a bulge where the base of the bullet was offset to the opposite side from the point. The case walls are so thin that even BT bullets were canting in the necks. That can't be good for accuracy and it made chambering a round difficult because of the tight neck size in my Encore Bullberry match chamber.

So I spent two days on my antique Craftsman mini-lathe making a concentric bullet starter out of a 1" stainless steal rod and some brass bar stock. The neck of the case is held square and the bullet is dropped in from the top and then seated with the brass centering pilot and a small mallet.

Before the tool: .006 to .008 runout at the tip.
After the tool: .001 or less runout at the tip.

Before the tool: MOA at 50 yards but most much worse.
After the tool: 1/2 MOA at 50 yards and a bunch more loads look promising.

I had never run into this with .223, 22-250, or larger calibers, I think due to the thicker, stronger case walls.
Anyway, it feels good to know that I've turned the corner and hoping to get some great coyote loads to do some pesting, as they've started coming much closer to the inhabited portion of my land.
 
I have been having really great luck seating 35gr. V-Max in my 22 Hornet with my Hornady New Dimension seating die. I have been getting readings up to something like .0007 or so, measured between the tip and ogive. I think, but can't prove that the sliding seater plug that intercepts the bullet and gets it going straight before it enters the die is what is doing it. I also use a Forster Co-Ax Press.

Danny
 
Too small ID a neck size, and not enough chamfer on the inside of the neck?

I tried going slightly larger on the neck diameter, but the bullets wouldn't hold, even with putting a crimp on afterwards. As for the chamfer, it helps some with the BTs and the like but not the flat bottomed bullets. Any more chamfer and the neck deforms right at the chamfer when pressure is applied. It also gets sharp and tended to shave a tiny bit of the base of the bullet off, again because the bullet wasn't exactly square when pressure was applied. I maybe just don't have the right technique for getting the bullets to sit straight in the neck while the press is moving. I look at my new tool as a crutch, but one that solves a problem for me. I even used a Lee universal neck flaring die but still got off center tips.


I have been having really great luck seating 35gr. V-Max in my 22 Hornet with my Hornady New Dimension seating die. I have been getting readings up to something like .0007 or so, measured between the tip and ogive. I think, but can't prove that the sliding seater plug that intercepts the bullet and gets it going straight before it enters the die is what is doing it. I also use a Forster Co-Ax Press.

Danny

I have not seen the New Dimension seating die. I'll have to check into that. Thanks.
 
I have been having really great luck seating 35gr. V-Max in my 22 Hornet with my Hornady New Dimension seating die. I have been getting readings up to something like .0007 or so, measured between the tip and ogive. I think, but can't prove that the sliding seater plug that intercepts the bullet and gets it going straight before it enters the die is what is doing it. I also use a Forster Co-Ax Press.

Danny
The New Dimension die does a great job, the best thing about it is that it works with any .22 caliber and you can get a Hornday micrometer top for it.
 

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