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Magneto Sporter...accuracy

Today, I started shooting a new barrel. I did my break in procedure(s) then started shooting a powder ladder. My FPS are all over the place. I'm thinkin I did something crazy wrong, or the Magneto is a big fat liar.

6.5PRC 142 ABLR 70 d day. N565 powder all 3 shot.

57g Low 2965 high 3012
57.7g low 2973 high 3007
58g low 2899 high 3034
58.5g low 3021 high 3080

My powder is weighed each time and Ive also checked that using another scale...and it's good.

What am I missing? Or, has anyone had a Magneto Sporter do this?
 
Could just be that barrel doesn’t like the combination you’re feeding it. Change powder or primers and see what happens
 
Today, I started shooting a new barrel. I did my break in procedure(s) then started shooting a powder ladder. My FPS are all over the place. I'm thinkin I did something crazy wrong, or the Magneto is a big fat liar.

6.5PRC 142 ABLR 70 d day. N565 powder all 3 shot.

57g Low 2965 high 3012
57.7g low 2973 high 3007
58g low 2899 high 3034
58.5g low 3021 high 3080

My powder is weighed each time and Ive also checked that using another scale...and it's good.

What am I missing? Or, has anyone had a Magneto Sporter do this?
Your barrel may need more time. Just my two cents Tommy Mc
 
Fresh batteries? I also agree with new brass/barrel break-in/and potential just bad combo of primer/powder/bullet.

Frank
 
Today, I started shooting a new barrel. I did my break in procedure(s) then started shooting a powder ladder. My FPS are all over the place. I'm thinkin I did something crazy wrong, or the Magneto is a big fat liar.

6.5PRC 142 ABLR 70 d day. N565 powder all 3 shot.

57g Low 2965 high 3012
57.7g low 2973 high 3007
58g low 2899 high 3034
58.5g low 3021 high 3080

My powder is weighed each time and Ive also checked that using another scale...and it's good.

What am I missing? Or, has anyone had a Magneto Sporter do this?
There really no difference in accuracy between the Sporter and the V3. The difference is just the accessories and the display unit's features. Make sure your Sporter is mounted properly.

Back in Sep. found a nice load for my N565 pushing 142 SMK's and chronoed them with my MagnetoSpeed V3. With 10 shots my ES was 20 and SD: 7.8, a 5 shot with a lighter load gave me an ES of 8 with an SD: 3.8. This was with a non-factory barrel with a little over 800 rounds down the tube.

There are several things that might be at play, but the first place I'd look at is your brass prep along with how much barrel break in you've done. And maybe this Nosler 142 doesn't like being pushed at or above max pressure in your rifle??? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


142 SMK - N565.jpg
 
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Here's my Brass prep w/shot brass. Lapua.
De cap and tumble. Inspect flash hole, and case. Anneal. FL resize w/about 1.5 thousands bump and neck to about 3 thousands using collar. sonic wash to remove lube.

I have mandrels, however, Ive found I get a good consistency using just the collar.

New brass: Check primer pocket. On Lupua I've found them acceptable. Check OAL, again, with Lapua I've found them good. I do recut Case OAL after first firing. Mandrel to make sure neck is round.

Please evaluate.
 
Here's my Brass prep w/shot brass. Lapua.
De cap and tumble. Inspect flash hole, and case. Anneal. FL resize w/about 1.5 thousands bump and neck to about 3 thousands using collar. sonic wash to remove lube.

I have mandrels, however, Ive found I get a good consistency using just the collar.

New brass: Check primer pocket. On Lupua I've found them acceptable. Check OAL, again, with Lapua I've found them good. I do recut Case OAL after first firing. Mandrel to make sure neck is round.

Please evaluate.
When you say you've checked your weighing using another scale, it helps to be much more specific. Like what scale do you use and what scale was the other you check with?

After you "sonic wash to remove lube", the inside of the neck is really clean and no spent powder deposits, right?

What lube are you using?

When you recut case OAL's, are you chamfering and deburring them?

Is that 3 thousandths neck tension you're referring to when you using your collar?

What press and die are you using to seat you bullets?

If you're necks that are really clean inside and you're using .003" of neck tension, this just might be the issue. And if your necks are like that, you really should be lubing the inside of your necks before seating. Not doing so can lead to significant variations in seating depths and variations in velocity like you're experiencing.
 
Lupus brass used and re temped, fed match primers. Should I try magnum primers?
The problem is obvious...your brass has lupus. ;)


I purchased one of the early Magnetospeed chronographs and used it for years. I was/am very satisfied with it. The only thing I didn't care for was the change in POI and group size/shape caused by muzzle blast off of the sensor deck, which rendered its use more difficult when firing longer practice strings at increased distance. Not saying it can't be done, but it's more work than it needs to be. In any event, I eventually purchased a LabRadar and have also tested them side-by-side. All the velocity trends were similar between the two, but there was a discrepancy of a few fps (not accounted for by distance to the muzzle). So I never worried about it.

If you or a friend have another rifle with a proven and velocity-stable load, it might be worth trying the Sporter with one of those and see what the results are. Alternatively, if you have a friend that has another chronograph, you could try both at the same time. As an internal control, the trends in velocity you listed above generally seem to increase with respect to increasing charge weight, as would be expected. Although that is not proof the unit is working properly, neither does it support a conclusion that it is not working properly. This is the real problem with diagnosing chronograph issues; without a "second opinion", meaning a second set of simultaneous chronograph results, the velocity data need to be really bad, or the unit must fail to take measurements in order to conclude with any certainty the problem lies with the unit itself. Although perhaps they are not acceptable to you, the velocity ES values merely seem a bit high, which may also be caused by other factors such as the load itself.

Trying a different primer might be beneficial as you suggested. Alternatively, if the the issue really is load-related, it may work itself out as you develop it further. Finally, be certain the bayonet is not moving while measurements are being taken; it can definitely happen depending on how it is attached. Regardless, some kind of test to determine the functionality of the unit is probably in order, if only to provide peace of mind.
 

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