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Luckiest day Ever

WANTASHOOT

IMG_3236.JPG IMG_3235.JPG IMG_3236.JPG IMG_3235.JPG About 4 Months ago a friend stated he was going to take a gun to the sheriff office to have it destroyed as he couldn't get any ammunition for it. I tried to convince him that he was making a mistake and that he should give me the gun instead. Then a couple weeks ago I asked what he had decided and informed him it would go to a good home and be passed down to my children and grand children (hope I have some). He said he would bring it to me, he didn't know what the gun was all he knew was it was really heavy and he couldn't get bullets. Well See for yourself why I am feeling like its the luckiest day ever. Pictures aren't perfect but should get my point across. Just happy I saved it from being destroyed.
 
First off you need to help your friend. He either has a brain tumor or he has been drinking the libtard Kool aid to want to do something as stupid as that.
Second congratulations you are one lucky sob. Nice rifle.
 
WANTASHOOT said:
Its chambered in 219 Zipper Improved, So if anyone knows about these I am all ears.
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I have very similar, but mine has close set double set triggers, yours appears to have a single set trigger. Mine is also a 219 zipper improved. You can't get ammo because it's a wildcat made on 25-35 cartridge or off a 30-30. There would be a number of steps involved in making ammo for for this rifle. If you don't know what your doing, you'll have to depend on the skills of a good smith. 33-30 necked down to 22 caliber.
Mine launches 55 gr max about 3650 fps Good luck with that beautiful old timer
 
WANTASHOOT said:
View attachment 1005598 View attachment 1005599 View attachment 1005598 View attachment 1005599 About 4 Months ago a friend stated he was going to take a gun to the sheriff office to have it destroyed as he couldn't get any ammunition for it. I tried to convince him that he was making a mistake and that he should give me the gun instead. Then a couple weeks ago I asked what he had decided and informed him it would go to a good home and be passed down to my children and grand children (hope I have some). He said he would bring it to me, he didn't know what the gun was all he knew was it was really heavy and he couldn't get bullets. Well See for yourself why I am feeling like its the luckiest day ever. Pictures aren't perfect but should get my point across. Just happy I saved it from being destroyed.
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You might consider re chambering it to something else that's rimmed and more readily available.
 
Kinda bummed now searched it high and low and it has no serial number. I will still enjoy it but I need to get it from Virgina to Arizona and not sure I can fly with it or ship it with no serial number. From what I can find on the inter web the SN# was on the lower tang but it appears it's been modified with this pistol grip style stock and there is no number. I have had the stock off and no numbers there and I took the forearm off and nothing there except a P stamped into the action. :(
 
I also lucked into one of those in the late 70's. Mine was less than $100 and came with the Unertl scope that's still on it.
It was a Winchester Hi-Wall, no serial #. I shot it as a 219 Donaldson Wasp for about ten years and grew tired of the forming
operations. Some time in the 80's I put a Shilen match barrel on it in 30 caliber and had it chambered for the 30-40 Krag, which
was a Hi-Wall chambering.






 
WANTASHOOT said:
Its chambered in 219 Zipper Improved
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Reed's ammo claims they have .219 Zipper loaded ammo. Might be able to fire-form in your chamber as that was a common practice back in the day. Once formed in your chamber you can do as suggested above and get custom dies made by Widdens or some other CUSTOM die-maker. OR you could sell it to me and I will make it shoot! dedogs
 
You can fly with it. There is no serial number, not even an inspection. Just declare it and follow the laws and rules. --jerry
 
Jeff Aberegg is a pretty good source for those rifles, and I'm pretty sure he had a 219 DW. I guess he's still with us......



'It would be a crime against nature to rechamber it. You have lucked onto a real piece of varmint shooting history.'

As Mr. Harren says, Scripture!
 
If you want to sell it, I will give you $50 more than you paid for it, and will pay all the shipping. Wildcats are my favorite. I actually make a lot of ammo from parent brass just because it is cheaper to make and easier to tailor my loads for my gun.
 
Brass is not hard to make for the 219 Zipper Improved. Just involves some dies and some time. And now that Hornady is loading for the 25-35 and presumably will be offering virgin brass, forming Zipper cases may become even easier.

It's a great, historic chambering. Run with it!!!
 
With that one, I'd start by casting the chamber to see where ya stand, and then do whatever it takes to form good cases for it. Won't be as bad as you think, and after you have a few hundred of them, you're set for some good times.

Casting the chamber is a cheap and inexpensive way to find out the REALITY of your chamber, and help you get the right stuff the first time. Until you do that you're working largely from speculation. jd
 
In case it hasnt been mentioned, firearms made prior to 1968 may not have serial numbers as manufacturers were not required to put serial numbers on them prior to the GCA of that year. Most still did, but some did not. Nice save on the rifle, btw.
 
jds holler said:
With that one, I'd start by casting the chamber to see where ya stand, and then do whatever it takes to form good cases for it. Won't be as bad as you think, and after you have a few hundred of them, you're set for some good times.

Casting the chamber is a cheap and inexpensive way to find out the REALITY of your chamber, and help you get the right stuff the first time. Until you do that you're working largely from speculation. jd
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I already have the CerroSafe and planned to do exactly as you stated. I am not sure what I will do as I set here now. But I am leaning towards making brass for it and enjoying it as it is. I may discover roadblocks that change my plans but until then who knows. Shipping today and should have it home where I can start really looking at it on Saturday. I Hope. Thanks for all the replies and advice.
 
I looked in my "Speer Manual for Wildcat Cartridges" (1959) and it looks like H380, BLC-2' and 4198 were some of the favorite powders. Probably anything used for 22-250. jd
 
Dimensionally the 219 Zipper Improved is a near twin to the 225 Winchester. But I wouldn't use max 225 loads in the Zipper due to differences in brass strength. 225 brass is super beefy compared to 30-30 brass.
 
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