lube in necks?

[mao0720]

Quick question. When you lube the inside of the case neck with imperial wax before sizing, do you leave the lube residue in the neck and go ahead and seat the bullet or do you tumble the case or clean the necks some other way?

 

[Preacher]

If your going to lube the insides of the necks, you would be better off using a dry lube.
The only time I use a neck lube is when I'm expanding the necks..
It would be a good idea to clean the lube out of the necks before seating the bullets..
A Q tip works good for that..

 

[22BRGUY]

I use Lee case lube for that as it says on the tube that once it dries it will not contaminate powder.

 

[fredhorace77]

I lube them with the sizing wax then tumble them afterwards.

 

[Baddog0302]

22 BR
?, do you mix the Lee lube with water or just apply it straight with a Q-Tip, or bore mop ? and than let it dry ?
7020,
If you are neck sizing only and using a conventional neck die, what I do is take a small pill container fill it with # 6-9 shot, add your dry lube, I use HBN but also have used Motor Mica

 

[wapiti25]

I use the Imperial Dry Neck Lube and it is great and does not need to be removed after sizing. I only use this when using a die with an expander ball. I dip it in the dry lube first then lube the body. The Imperial Dry Neck Lube reduces the force of pulling the expander by 50% or more which should reduce the chance of the neck from being pulled off center.

 

[lrgoodger]

+1 on the Lee lube.

I tried that Imperial wax and never again! If you don't clean it out, you can't dump powder out to weigh it. So many kernels cling to the neck it isn't funny.

Also, I've noticed lower ES & SD after neck turning when there is still a film of Lee lube in the neck when the bullets are seated.

 

[Shynloco]

I use the Imperial Dry Neck Lube and it is great and does not need to be removed after sizing... dip it in the dry lube. The Imperial Dry Neck Lube reduces the force of pulling the expander by 50% or more which should reduce the chance of the neck from being pulled off center.

Excellent advice. Most experienced reloaders I've spoke too and read books regarding this subject will tell you NOT to put any form of liquid or fluid wax INSIDE a case neck. Too many unintended side effects if you don't get the wax out completely. Just my 2 cents worth.

Alex

 

[bozo699]

Unless your expanding them for a false shoulder or to go up in caliber, like from 6br to 7br, why why would you lube the necks at all? I haven't lubed a neck in years except to do as I mentioned or for neck turning.
Wayne.

 

[22BRGUY]

I apply Lee case lube on the inside of necks with a Q tip but make sure there is just a light film of it by dipping the Q tip in the Lee lube and then wiping off excess on my fingers from the Q tip. For the outside of cases I smear a dab of lee case lube on a dry rag and smear it into the rag; then apply a light film of it on the outside of the cases, making sure there are no globs anywhere; then after sizing the outside I wipe the lube off with either a dry rag or paper towel.

Bozo, I don't always lube the inside of the necks either, but occasionally try it to see if it will help reduce runout on a particular bullet by allowing it to perhaps start the seating process a little easier by just lubing a little around the inside of case mouth. Good question tho and thanks.

 

[louielouie]

I use a bottle of NEI "Mold Prep" for cast bullet molds - a graphite & isopropyl solution - that I use after ultrasonic cleaning of my cases. The thin film dries quickly and smooths all neck operations. Applied with Q-tip only takes a few drops to treat 50 cases if you don't waste time...

 

[holstil]

I've been using ws2 in ceramic beads but I think I will try that lee stuff you all are talking about.
The wax lets it slip smoother then the tungsten disulfide but I don't like the kernels sticking to the case.

Jim

 

[bozo699]

I apply Lee case lube on the inside of necks with a Q tip but make sure there is just a light film of it by dipping the Q tip in the Lee lube and then wiping off excess on my fingers from the Q tip. For the outside of cases I smear a dab of lee case lube on a dry rag and smear it into the rag; then apply a light film of it on the outside of the cases, making sure there are no globs anywhere; then after sizing the outside I wipe the lube off with either a dry rag or paper towel.

Bozo, I don't always lube the inside of the necks either, but occasionally try it to see if it will help reduce runout on a particular bullet by allowing it to perhaps start the seating process a little easier by just lubing a little around the inside of case mouth. Good question tho and thanks.

22brguy,
When lubing the outside of the case with the rag are you also lubing the shoulder or do you exclude that part?
Also,....the better your runout assuming your cases are concentric after they come out of your chamber it falls on your resizing die and how much your taking your neck size down all at once, it is hard to make good ammo unless your die sizes in accordance to your chamber,...also if you want your bullet to seat easier assuming your running .004 or under neck tension then brush the inside of your necks, lube is not required, test this for yourself, take a case straight from your tumbler, size it, no lube on the inside at all!! and seat a bullet, if you do not have a K&M arbor press with seat force on it, I personally think it's one of the best tools on my bench, glad many don't use them or understand them anyway if you have one take note of the force it takes to seat the bullet, it will be a lot! then brush the inside neck with a tight fitting brush about 6 to ten full strokes, then seat the same kind of bullet, if your running .004 or less tension for not over 1/3 of the case neck length I bet it's about 20 -25 lbs. on the force seat dial, if you don't have one just take mental note on how hard they each seated, you will be amazed! If powder sticks to your case neck wall you have left lube behind and that is not a good thing IMO and in many others opinions as well.
Wayne.

 

[22BRGUY]

Thanks again Wayne and that is about exactly what I do most of the time except, on the arbor press I don't (yet) have the dial indicator. On your point about brushing the inside of the necks, I do believe you are exactly right on that too but I'm one of these guys always trying some idea again or in conjunction with??? and looking for some possible better result. I don't lube the shoulders as you mentioned, but when I lube the inside of the case mouth a little, its after I've charged the case with powder, then check bullet runout to see if it seems to have improved any.

 

[DeltaBravo]

I use the Imperial Dry Neck Lube and it is great and does not need to be removed after sizing. I only use this when using a die with an expander ball. I dip it in the dry lube first then lube the body. The Imperial Dry Neck Lube reduces the force of pulling the expander by 50% or more which should reduce the chance of the neck from being pulled off center.

I use the Imperial Dry Lube as well, but I lube the expander instead of each case neck. One good dip in the applicator ceramic balls and it's good for 40 to 50 cases; of course, I'm only necking down the 6BR with a .267 bushing, with a .268 loaded neck diameter.

Dennis

 

[holstil]

I'm running the dry stuff with all my dies that have expanders in them. I use imperial wax for heavier operations. I'm always open for better.

 

[chuckw2]

Delta Bravo!,!
Great idea......what a time saver........
Chuck

 

[barnesuser28]

I just use hornady one shot lube and make sure to get some in the neck so the case necks dont score the bullet, i ultra sonically clean my cases.

 

[randy x]

hornady one shot

 

[robbor]

if i use a lube that needs to be removed i wash in laquer thinner and let them set overnight.