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Started at 20 gr and worked up to 21.5 in my new tikka t3 forrest. This put 5 52 gr bergers in about a .430 group. No pressure signs at all and actually looks like .5 gr more would tighten it up more. Very impressed with this powder as well as this gun. I hoped it would be as accurate as the old sako 222 vixens, and it sure is. I think with some load development it will have no problem shooting some groups deep in the .3s. Impressed to say the least for a gun at this cost.It will suit it very well, start off at 19.5g and work up with a thick cup primer