Looks like the AMP Annealer will have some competition soon

[quest450]

stavey...... are you a shill for quick anneal ? you're trying waaaaay too hard

 

[stavey]

I actually think it’s the other way around. Some AMP owners are shills.
Afraid their AMPs are about to go the way of the labradar. All I’ve stated are facts. Not sure how that makes someone a shill. Would you happen to own a AMP ? LOL

 

[Larry Koch]

This might explain the 200.00 off of the amp today?

 

[RustyInBend]

Now if this annealer had a little conveyer belt on the top that auto dropped in the brass, amp would be up for sale

It should also make a good latte ...

 

[Varminterror]

Amp themselves state on their website that their amp mate isn’t compatible with br/bra cases.

I missed that statement - I guess mine is broken…

Dillon Feeder + AmpMate + AMP = effortless, high volume, precise annealing.

 

[mfendley]

I missed that statement - I guess mine is broken…

Dillon Feeder + AmpMate + AMP = effortless, high volume, precise annealing.

That may be old info; the AMP Mate instructions discuss using for 6BR/BRA:



I have no issues using the AMP Mate for my 6BRX

 

[stavey]

I didn’t say that AMP did. This is a screenshot of their website last week. Here’s a shot of it this week”revised”.

 

[Rset]

I don't own an AMP. Won't pay their price to heat a piece of brass, and I am still not convinced that it does any better of a job than a good flame annealing process. Annealing = time @ temperature. Nothing more.
If I had paid the money for an AMP I would defend my decision with a passion in order to keep from feeling foolish for spending so much money.
I do think the AMP is a great piece of equipment. so is an Annie. Certainly different price points.
Nice to see some competition. I look forward to the battle to come. It can only benefit us as users.

 

[Pete Wass]

I bought an AMP last year and used it all summer. I anneal only BR cases so I guess I'm safe from remorse but @ age 79 I was certain I was only spending the Nursing home's money anyway so Let the good times roll, I say.

 

[Pinkes]

I don't own an AMP. Won't pay their price to heat a piece of brass, and I am still not convinced that it does any better of a job than a good flame annealing process. Annealing = time @ temperature. Nothing more.
If I had paid the money for an AMP I would defend my decision with a passion in order to keep from feeling foolish for spending so much money.
I do think the AMP is a great piece of equipment. so is an Annie. Certainly different price points.
Nice to see some competition. I look forward to the battle to come. It can only benefit us as users.

I am using the Quick Anneal for over 2 years now. I switched from flame to induction for consistent annealing and speed. I don't believe you need the scientific AMP to get consistent neck tension release, but others do- get the AMP then its a great machine. But everyone has his own OCD issues.. annealing is not mine! Testing usually eliminate allot of questions!!

 

[NiteQwill]

I missed that statement - I guess mine is broken…

Dillon Feeder + AmpMate + AMP = effortless, high volume, precise annealing.

I wish my AmpMate was effortless. I've owned mine for nearly 3 years, spoken with Matt and Alex numerous times, it never works 100%. Always gets hung up on something. Even replaced it with a new one, same situation. I anneal faster with 2 brass holders.

 

[Preacher]

I've had a bunch of annealers of different makes, and they all did pretty darn good, But a PITA when lots of times I only need to anneal 6 cases a bunch of times during the day, and it sure is easy to poke a few buttons on the AMP instead of dealing within the time consuming setup of the others..

 

[J.d. Popkes]

I never took the time to see where this new one is made

A major factor for me personally in not buying an amp is where it’s made. I understand New Zealand?

Didn’t Barnard actions go away? Maybe I don’t have my facts straight. We need American shit. Harder to regulate away with importation restrictions.

 

[Rset]

We need American shit. Harder to regulate away with importation restrictions.

True, but what about export restrictions, product liability, constantly moving regulations, etc. Made in USA = Liability. Until we take our government back and elect representatives who may have an actual understanding of our founding principals, I personally would never get involved as a manufacturer or even as a direct importer of record.

 

[J.d. Popkes]

True, but what about export restrictions, product liability, constantly moving regulations, etc. Made in USA = Liability. Until we take our government back and elect representatives who may have an actual understanding of our founding principals, I personally would never get involved as a manufacturer or even as a direct importer of record.

That’s what I meant in a round about way.

 

[searcher]

From their accomplishments overseas it appears they have already proven themselves. They have been around for years. As far as the Aztec software goes the sensors in the quick anneal do the same thing by adjusting heating temp and time . It just doesn’t burn up a case or charge extra for the software. The quick anneal can also detect when a different brand is mixed in or when there is an anomaly with the neck thickness. I don’t believe the AMP has the technology to do either of those things. Not to mention it works with any variable speed case feeder. For $990 shipped and you don’t need seperate pilots. As I’ve said competition is always good for the consumer.

I don't know what the true capabilities are of the "quick anneal". I haven't used it, so I cannot form any opinion on it other than what I read. When I bought my Amp, I segregated 1,000 pieces of .20 Practical brass into about 4 different weight groups and "burned" a case from each group to come up with the annealing setting using the Aztec program. And it did give me unique settings for each group (which were about 5 to 6 tenths of a grain apart in weight). I was curious as to whether those would be repeated as accurate when I "burned' another case from each group, just to see. The results were almost identical. I was pretty impressed. There is little doubt in my mind that if one threw in a case from another manufacturer that differed in composition or weight - it would signal a different code- so I'd say it does find such anomalies between cases. But you would have to "burn" the case to find out - or use their recommended codes instead for that brand in caliber. I was using all Lake City brass, though mixed years. It seemed the brass metallurgy was close enough between the different years of brass to not create a different code, yet weight definitely did matter in this little "test".

In the instructions, they give codes for various manufacturers of brass in each caliber - and different codes for specific years of the same brass for the same caliber in a few situations - at least one being for Lapua brass. So - they are even telling us to expect different codes for the brand of brass that is universally accepted as the most consistent brass out there - depending on whether it is a specified year. Pretty accurate brass assessment in my mind.

That said, if the other machine can analyze each piece, regardless of make and weight, and automatically anneal them to be the same, I'd say that is the pinnacle of annealing. I think the question is whether that is what is really happening. After all, it could take a lot of shooting to see whether that is happening as advertised. Back to other tests for extraction or seating pressures to ascertain?

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

I never took the time to see where this new one is made

A major factor for me personally in not buying an amp is where it’s made. I understand New Zealand?

Didn’t Barnard actions go away? Maybe I don’t have my facts straight. We need American shit. Harder to regulate away with importation restrictions.

Made in South Africa

 

[SeabeeKen]

Now if only the amp and QA could keep primer pockets from wearing out

 

[J.d. Popkes]

Made in South Africa

Yeah see I can’t help but wonder if it’s a bad idea to spend a bunch of money on a tool made in a gun-unfriendly country same as New Zealand if you ever need support down the road.

 

[stavey]

I thought that the test function was quick annealer version of Aztec . It is not . Their machine is setup by watching for a glow and setting a timer. While this is consistent. Without a hardness tester you won’t know if your consistency is in the 90-105 window. Where it should be. Just something else to think about . Here was their response when I emailed them on how to set their machine up.