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Looking for CFE 223 load data for 6mm Rem

Brians356

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Can anyone point me to a reference (published or not) for CFE 223 load data for 6mm Rem? Hodgdon does not publish any. (Yes, I can extrapolate from the limited 243 Win data, but I am looking specifically for 6mm Rem data.)

Brian
 
What weight bullet? I have Hodgdon's 2014 annual manual and on pg 83 it lists 6mm BR Remington.
 
mj52 said:
What weight bullet? I have Hodgdon's 2014 annual manual and on pg 83 it lists 6mm BR Remington.

Yes, 6mm Rem is published by Hodgdon - has been for many decades. Does it include any CFE 223 powder loads (per the subject of this thread)?

Brian
 
mj52 said:
what grain bullet?

I'll take them all! Why do you ask? Which bullets does Hodgdon publish CFE data for? Just askin; because on their web site they publish for zero bullets. ;-)

[drum roll]
 
mj52 said:
Good luck

Uh, don't take this the wrong way, but 6mm BR is not 6mm Rem. The latter was formerly 244 Rem and is the cartridge I asked about. Thanks for the best wishes.

Now, anyone know where CFE 223 data is published for 6mm Rem?
 
I don't have any 6 Rem data. I have, however, monkeyed around a fair bit with CFE 223 in various cartridges. Be wary of the stuff, it works great in the cartridges it was intended for. Extrapolating to other cartridges can get you into trouble- I know. In 6BR or 6 Dasher it's very peaky. Also, a lot of Hodgson's book loads for CFE are way hot, I've found.
 
jhord said:
I don't have any 6 Rem data. I have, however, monkeyed around a fair bit with CFE 223 in various cartridges. Be wary of the stuff, it works great in the cartridges it was intended for. Extrapolating to other cartridges can get you into trouble- I know. In 6BR or 6 Dasher it's very peaky. Also, a lot of Hodgson's book loads for CFE are way hot, I've found.

Thanks. Not to worry, I'm not going for velocity. I need a starting load only, I want to fire-lap a barrel using CFE to minimize copper fouling. But here's the kicker - the bullets are 107-gr Sierras. Yes, very heavy, but Sierra has published IMR 3031 data for a 107-gr bullet, and 3031 is quite a bit faster than CFE. I figure about 32-33 grains of CFE will be ok at about 2700 fps, but still looking for some actual data. I'm interested in other, lighter bullets as well with CFE (for actual hunting) in 6mm Rem, which is why I didn't specify a particular bullet.

Brian
 
Update:

I do not believe there are yet any published data for CFE 223 in 6mm Rem., nor are any informally published on a bullet or powder maker's web site. Since Hodgdon publishes data for both 243 Win and 243 WSSM, I believe only business-related factors will preclude 6mm Rem data from eventually being developed and published. (And in the 2014 Hodgdon annual load periodical, they omitted 243 WSSM entirely, which indicates selectivity is certainly in play. There have simply been too many cartridges and powders introduced in recent years for some vendors to stay abreast in load development. A chap from Sierra told me on the phone last week the reason they have not completed a new load manual since 2003 - they simply cannot divert the resources from production QA what with the huge demand for product.)

However, a chap on another forum was kind enough to provide data from an internal ballistics modeling program which indicates I was right on the money at ~33 grains CFE 223 behind a 107-gr bullet as a starting load.
 
Resurrecting an old thread here. ...how did your loads work out?

I'm looking to load some 6mm Remington with 75gr Sierra Verminter bullets using CFE-223. ...it's the only powder I have on hand, so I'm hoping to make it work.
 
I was only running the Tubb fire lapping bullets, at low velocity. The loads worked, but not much to learn about CFE 223 in real loads. Hodgdon told me "Don't use CFE 223 in 6mm Rem - we found it too unstable."
 
brians356 said:
I was only running the Tubb fire lapping bullets, at low velocity. The loads worked, but not much to learn about CFE 223 in real loads. Hodgdon told me "Don't use CFE 223 in 6mm Rem - we found it too unstable."

Thanks. ...looks like I'll have to pawn off the CFE, as I have no use for it at this point then. :(

I do appreciate the feedback though, thanks again.

Cheers.
 
I tried some in an AR 22-250 caliber. It was the sootiest mess on the spent cartridge cases I ever saw. That being said, I have almost 4 pounds that I would sell or trade.
 
Incidentally, did you know 6mm Rem and 243 WSSM are virtually identical WRT interior ballistics? Now you do.
 

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