long range 22 ammo

[MarkS]

What ammo are you shooting for 100yds+ steel shooting? I have been out of rimfire shoot for a while, I see some of the stuff I was using is no longer made.

Mark Schronce

 

[bheadboy]

shooting ihmsa pistol, ans exempler and S&W 617 i find Fiocchi pistol super match is great, easily taking 1/2 size at 100yd,

in my pd rifle it is well under moa at 100

bob

 

[CJ6]

What ever your rifle likes @ 25-50 yds it'll like @ 100 yds.

 

[MarkS]

My gun shoots Eley Silhouex very well, but It is not listed anywhere. I guess not made any longer. I am looking for what Silhouette shooter are using today.

Mark

 

[jbpmidas]

I don't shoot Silhouette, but we shoot at 100 yards at a reduced F-Class target. The X is 1/2" and the 10 is 1". My Kimber 82G will keep 10 rounds of Eley Black inside the 10 ring when I don't miss wind shifts, which I do quite regularly. It will just about keep Tenex in the X ring. SK Standard+ is close to ten ring accurate, but it suffers from the occasional flier. Wolf Match Extra is about the same as the SK+ but seems to have more of the fliers. Midas+ is really good stuf too, but I like the Eley Black better. Center-X is in there somewhere as well.

 

[dreever]

Mark,

This is what I use. It shoots just as good as the high priced spread in my Anschutz 64MPR

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/500rds-22lr-federal-gold-medal-high-velocity-match-40gr-solid-point/cName/22-long-rifle-ammo-solid-point

Danny

 

[Lesloan]

In my club, we shoot weekly "old farts" RF benchrest matches (so-called 'cuz they're shot on weekdays & mostly only retired folks can be there). One week we shoot "Mini Palma" matches at 100 yds, the next week it's 1/5 scale silhouette swingers from 100-175 yds. I use an Anschutz 2013 BR-50 sporting a Weaver T24. I've gotten the best results with Eley Team in the Mini Palma matches and SK RM for the swingers, where an occasional flier doesn't hurt quite so much. I'm afraid to try anything much more expensive than the Team 'cuz I might like it better.

I've also used the Eley in 200-yd BR matches, & found it to do very well.

 

[Shynloco]

In my club, we shoot weekly "old farts" RF benchrest matches (so-called 'cuz they're shot on weekdays & mostly only retired folks can be there). One week we shoot "Mini Palma" matches at 100 yds, the next week it's 1/5 scale silhouette swingers from 100-175 yds. I use an Anschutz 2013 BR-50 sporting a Weaver T24. I've gotten the best results with Eley Team in the Mini Palma matches and SK RM for the swingers, where an occasional flier doesn't hurt quite so much. I'm afraid to try anything much more expensive than the Team 'cuz I might like it better.

I've also used the Eley in 200-yd BR matches, & found it to do very well.

Lesloan,
Oh My.....you are depriving that nice nice rifle from putting out for you. Go ahead and try some Lapua Midas+ or even Eley Tenex Red and see how she likes it. I've got the 64 MPR and she LOVES that Lapua Midas +. And I know what that 54 Action is capable of, just don't have the wallet for it with all my other toys I have to feed.

Mark S,
If I might be so bold and to suggest that you have to re-test if your ammo has been discontinued. Its not really surprising that ELey, Lapua and even Federal Ultra Match has changed over the years. SO we could all make suggestions to you, but your rifle will be in the best position to tell you what she likes. I know this won't help you, but ammo like Lapua Midas+ and Federal Ultra Match UM22 (both top of the line ammo sold commercially) go from $15.50 and $14.99 per 50 nowadays. Oh and Eley Tenex Red, how's $20 for 50 sound?

 

[chucknbach]

What ever your rifle likes @ 25-50 yds it'll like @ 100 yds.

For the most part your right but not necessarily. CCI Velocitors shoot the best in mine at 50yds but at 100 yds they were quite spread out. The second best at 50yds was CCI 36gn Mini Mags and had far better grouping at 100yds.

 

[rayjay]

I have shot in a RF BR silhouette match where the chickens are at 75 meters and the rams at 188 meters. The cheaper the ammo the more likely you are to have a high or low shot cost you a point. Eley Match EPS is what I normally use.

The last time I shot this match I used SK Match or Rifle Match [ crs ] and although I only dropped one point [ 144m turkey ] as I was shooting the turkeys I was thinking that I was doomed when I got to the rams. I actually hit all the rams but way too many of the hits were just a smidgen from being a miss. I would hit the nose then the butt then the tummy then the back and during all this the wind was really not changing at all. Some of the guys actually commented on me doing that well with cheaper ammo.

 

[hogpatrol]

shooting ihmsa pistol, ans exempler and S&W 617 i find Fiocchi pistol super match is great, easily taking 1/2 size at 100yd,

in my pd rifle it is well under moa at 100

bob

Bob, What did best in your Exemplar. I just bought one in .22LR. TIA, Hog

 

[DaveWhite]

What ever your rifle likes @ 25-50 yds it'll like @ 100 yds.

For the most part your right but not necessarily. CCI Velocitors shoot the best in mine at 50yds but at 100 yds they were quite spread out. The second best at 50yds was CCI 36gn Mini Mags and had far better grouping at 100yds.

Not even for the most part. I have had many different lots of match ammo that shot very well at 50 yards that did not do well at 100 yards. The only answer is to test it at 100 yards, because if it shoots well at 100, IT WILL shoot well at 50 yards!

Best solution is to get a box of as many different ammos (in your price range) and test them at 100 yards. The high price of the good stuff is the resultant lack of flyers. Even the best stuff will fail you if you don't watch the wind shifts...

 

[JoeM57]

What ever your rifle likes @ 25-50 yds it'll like @ 100 yds.

For the most part your right but not necessarily. CCI Velocitors shoot the best in mine at 50yds but at 100 yds they were quite spread out. The second best at 50yds was CCI 36gn Mini Mags and had far better grouping at 100yds.

Not even for the most part. I have had many different lots of match ammo that shot very well at 50 yards that did not do well at 100 yards. The only answer is to test it at 100 yards, because if it shoots well at 100, IT WILL shoot well at 50 yards!

Best solution is to get a box of as many different ammos (in your price range) and test them at 100 yards. The high price of the good stuff is the resultant lack of flyers. Even the best stuff will fail you if you don't watch the wind shifts...

I would agree with this. A good example is Federal 510B... Great at 25 yards, so-so at 50 yards, stinks to high heaven beyond that. At least in the rifles I've tested this particular ammo in. Now some folks may very well have better results with it. This however was a lesson learned for me - never buy "cheap-cheap" ammo just to have something to plink with while saving the good stuff for the serious shooting. It's good enough for gongs, but terrible on paper past 25 yards.

 

[Outrider27]

What ever your rifle likes @ 25-50 yds it'll like @ 100 yds.

For the most part your right but not necessarily. CCI Velocitors shoot the best in mine at 50yds but at 100 yds they were quite spread out. The second best at 50yds was CCI 36gn Mini Mags and had far better grouping at 100yds.

Not even for the most part. I have had many different lots of match ammo that shot very well at 50 yards that did not do well at 100 yards. The only answer is to test it at 100 yards, because if it shoots well at 100, IT WILL shoot well at 50 yards!

Best solution is to get a box of as many different ammos (in your price range) and test them at 100 yards. The high price of the good stuff is the resultant lack of flyers. Even the best stuff will fail you if you don't watch the wind shifts...

I would agree with this. A good example is Federal 510B... Great at 25 yards, so-so at 50 yards, stinks to high heaven beyond that. At least in the rifles I've tested this particular ammo in. Now some folks may very well have better results with it. This however was a lesson learned for me - never buy "cheap-cheap" ammo just to have something to plink with while saving the good stuff for the serious shooting. It's good enough for gongs, but terrible on paper past 25 yards.

I might as well put my two cents worth in here in support of the above quoted posts. Way back when, when I shot a lot of IHMSA smallbore pistol silhouette, it was an axiom that your fifty yard test with all the different single boxes of ammo you could round up at local stores was just a screening test that narrowed the choices down for you to re-shoot at 100 yards. In pistols, just because it shot well at 50 yards didn't mean it shot well at 100 yards, it was just an indicator that it was more likely to shoot well at 100 yards. And as an aside, just because it shot well in my 14" Contender barrel didn't neessarily mean it was going to shoot well in the 10" barrel or in either Hi Standard I had. Lots of testing sometimes, then back to whichever store the "good stuff" came from and by a couple bricks or more of the same lot number.

When I first saw the statement on here that if it shot well at 50 yards it would shoot well at 100 yards, I just assumed that rifles were somehow different in their behavior than pistols, as I hadn't yet gone through the "great search" for any of my .22RF rifles. I still don't have the sheer volume of testing experience with rifles that I have with pistols, but my initial findings indicate that while rifles seem to be less tempermental than the pistols were when going from 50 yards to a hundred yards, good performance at 50 yards still isn't a guarantee of good performance at 100 yards, it just seems to correllate more often in rifles.

And never assume that non-match ammo won't be a winner in any particular firearm. The cheap bulk pack bargain 330 to 550 round promo ammos don't usually offer much promise (too much rim thickness variation and primer variation, including complete lack of primer compound causing a misfire no matter where the firing pin hits, always an indicator that there may be a lot of round to round ignition variation), but regular old standard and high velocity ammo can yield pleasant surprises. I once found a lot number of Winchester high velocity hollowpoints in the nice plastic sliding lid 100 round boxes that my Hi Standard 104 "ray gun" just loved at 50 and 100 yards. In IHMSA smallbore pistol this was a find, as clangers don't count and the velocity reduction in a pistol meant that remaning energy with standard velocity and match ammo did not guarantee that the rams would fall over as required for score even with a solid hit. And on the rams, a dead center mass hit doesn't guarantee it will fall; ironically, a hit high, low, right or left of center mass is usually better. A center mass hit literally tries to push the ram straight back as much or more than tipping it, while an off center hit tends to help by adding more tip or spin to the force vectors working on the ram.

As always when searching for the best ammo for your .22 these are my experiences - yours may be different, but we hope they're not too frustrating.

 

[KevinThomas]

Lapua Center-X! I found a dynamite lot in my 40-X, and have been using it very well ever since. Shot the Firecraker 4800 Prone match in Raton, NM last week, an F-Class Rimfire shoot earlier this week and a few other practice sessions with it so far. Absolutely hammers at 50 and 100, no problems at all. I'll agree completely with the others here who have posted that just because a lot works at 50, doesn't mean that it will work at longer ranges. Definately not a linear degradation, and I've seen plenty of lots that shot beautifully at 50, but fell on their face at the long line. By the same token, I've seen some that performed indifferently at 50, but still managed to post very respectable groups at 100. Very difficult, if not impossible to predict such things. Test, and you'll know for sure. No other way around that.

 

[CJ6]

LOL No bias there EHHH ;D Kevin. Seriously tho I've got a good lot of older Master L that's PRETTY darn good in couple of 67 A's 8)

 

[DaveWhite]

+1 on that, I saw that sly connection too (reminded me of Pres Kendel, who could not give the stuff away until he won big with it...)

Good stuff, but they sure are proud of it...