Load Data for 6mm PPC

[butchlambert]

I use from 29.2-29.7 V133. Some guys are slightly above 30. As most of you know different loads for different conditions.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Ok
You are hitting the low node shoots really well in a lot conditions
As you begin to shoot more you will find times that it won’t usually showing up in a vertical string.
As Jeff said you can’t put to much 133 in your rig.
Have a good time with it

Rifle is a Stolle/Panda, barrel is marked Borden Accuracy on one side and Hart #1 on the other.

Rifle is a Stolle/Panda, barrel is marked Borden ot a full frain Accuracy on one side and Hart #1 on the other.

Using Lapua 220 Russian brass with 262 neck.

I have shot a full grain more that you in 3 different PPC's for over 20 years, never a problem. You can work into a higher node, might help fight the wind. I shoot mine in matches to 500 yd. and try to get all I can out of the case.

 

[A j shooter]

There is no answer to this other than experience
As a newbie about 5years in it just takes the time under match conditions during the course of a day then the next day to experience hiw different it could shoot then
I really wish there was a better answer to give you

Practice , practice , practice you can not practice enough.
I agree with Tim

 

[BenPerfected]

Based on this thread, it doesn’t look like the PPC shooters are using barrel tuners. Is there a reason why?
Ben

 

[R.Morehouse]

Weight for LV 10.5 is tough to do......

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Based on this thread, it doesn’t look like the PPC shooters are using barrel tuners. Is there a reason why?
Ben

More are than not. A tuner wont fix an out of tune gun nor shoot thru conditions- thats what the thread is about

 

[Tim Singleton]

Based on this thread, it doesn’t look like the PPC shooters are using barrel tuners. Is there a reason why?
Ben

Like Dusty said probably more are than aren’t.
Some say they have them figured out.
I use one not that that means much. I’m behind all the time playing catch up to the conditions tuner or not.
The ones that are winning are ahead of what’s coming
We can’t forget these guys have been hard at this for 20 plus years
Nothin gonna make up for experience

 

[Tim Singleton]

I’ve been reading match results this week daily as this years short range nbrsa Nationals are happening
You can see someone win a yardage with an outstanding 5 target teen agg that morning then be in 50th place that afternoon
They were on the ragged edge and couldn’t keep it there

 

[Tim Singleton]

We’re kinda migrating from casual shooting into another level.
The PPC is an amazingly accurate thing. It can hook you in

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

In light of what has been said here I believe I have the load I am using is pretty close to perfect. There might be some tweaking to be done
and there may be another node to be found, but I like what I am seeing so far. Five shot groups at 100 yards.



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[Dusty Stevens]

Thats a light load thatll be very wind sensitive and will definitely be different tomorrow if you shot that in the rain. Good shooting

 

[Tim Singleton]

In light of what has been said here I believe I have the load I am using is pretty close to perfect. There might be some tweaking to be done
and there may be another node to be found, but I like what I am seeing so far. Five shot groups at 100 yards.



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That’s great shooting!
The amazing thing is with some flags and a little load tweaking you can cut those in half!

 

[jimmymac]

In light of what has been said here I believe I have the load I am using is pretty close to perfect. There might be some tweaking to be done
and there may be another node to be found, but I like what I am seeing so far. Five shot groups at 100 yards.



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Good shooting Nick.

 

[Mulligan]

Although I am a complete rookie at this short range stuff, a mentor has been more valuable than anything else.
Dan Dowling and Boyd Allen have helped tremendously.

This is a great thread
CW

 

[joshb]

I was told that H322 is a easier for a rookie to use. I tried both V133 and H322. I’m saving the V133 for when I get better as a shooter.

 

[GSPV]

I was told that H322 is a easier for a rookie to use. I tried both V133 and H322. I’m saving the V133 for when I get better as a shooter.

322 is great until the temperature gets up.

LT-32 and N-133, with their warts, are still the best powders day in and day out.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Yea i would recommend n133 having burned tons of 322

 

[GSPV]

(Turn your screen 90 counter clockwise to look at the picture).

The below is something that I did while playing with my tuner.

But, I recommend that you do something similar with your PPC load at 0.3 grain or even 0.2 grain increments. You don’t need nearly as many shots .

You are looking for a place that increasing powder charge yields a lower POI on the graph with constant POA. That’s the good side. The opposite, where POI marches up with increasing powder charge is the bad side. It is associated with lots of vertical.

The real bummer is that the groups will get tiny right where the local max and mins are.

So, you’ll be cranking along, agging good. The temperature is increasing which is the same thing as increasing powder. Your group is freaking awesome and you go back out next relay super confident and ready to lock in the win...and then the group blows up and you can’t believe it. You’ve snatched defeat from the very jaws of victory.

Meantime, the old dude beside you has been cranking along with a little vertical the whole time. His best were never as good as your best, but his worst isn’t nearly as bad and he ends up winning in the end.

Someone says “He agged is to death”.

Now you know why.

 

[GSPV]

 

[GSPV]

Try to stay on the good side with a little vertical tuned in. It will keep you from getting over into the bad side as temperature increases. And, IMHO, a good, fast load with some vertical tuned in is less wind sensitive than one that is drilling a hole.

Now, the trick is to go find out how to adjust your powder charge with increasing temperature. Simplistically, you want to find the tune and then stay tuned *for constant velocity* as temperature increases.

I’m a duffer, so take this with a grain of salt.