A lot of the crazy, stupid stuff done 40-50 years ago, I don't think was illegal back then.Seems like this thread is turning into a kind of race to the bottom.
I hate to say it, but a lot of the wild crazy stuff we used to do forty or fifty years ago, was often just drunken and stupid stuff. It just doesn't sound very good these days, and I think it's time to stop doing it, -- and to stop talking about it.
Yeah, I think I'm gettin old.jd
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Rick in Oregon
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Maybe not illegal, but just as stupid. Ask me how I know......
Yep, all raptors are protected. Ranchers used to like to shoot bald eagles, too, and nearly wiped them out completely. Unless you are content to have cattle coast to coast, and nothing but them, landowners blessing is not the end all be all.
There’s no law against scaring them away. In Texas, shot wild pigs are not required to be eaten like deer are, for example. Raptors love them.
First calf heifers in a pasture will calf over a short period of time and need to be watched anyway because some have to be pulled, or appear to have been abandoned or have a dry cow, and get penned on a milk cow.
They aren’t vulnerable for very long, buzzards stand around advertising their intentions long before doing anything, and usually just want the afterbirth. The active hours of buzzards is pretty limited. Just keep an “eye out.”
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My guy that I work on his ranch has 6000 acres and he tries to keep the bred cows and calves very close to the house and barn. But what you are talking about is not even close to possible. They don't calve on the same day. He has got it down to very small losses. But if I were him I would shoot every buzzard i saw even near my cows.
Yup, a bunch of the scars I have are a result of same....
archerforkids
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I'm sure I'm not the only member here that owns or has owned a Remington Mohawk in a .308. I got mine in a trade at the whopping age of 15. When Pop got home that afternoon I conned him into running me out to a farmers place close to town so I could shoot it. Weather was pretty cool. We had an extra jacket in the truck that made a perfect roll-up rest to throw on the hood of pops truck. It's right before sunset when I get all braced up and let er rip first round. Pop climbed all in my butt telling me to get that fire breathing b#%$&&d of his truck before it burned the paint off.
Funny now. Not so much that day.
I sniped many coyotes with that rifle out of a pickup back then. Our county had a bounty for 8 bucks. If you didn't blow a canyon in his hide you'd get another 8 to 10 for the fur. Good money for a teen back then.
steelhead king
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Hunting coyotes in ND with my buddies Dad's farm. He was driving us a round in his old Ford. Coyote shows up about 600 yards out. Pull over and pull out the AR 50. Set up on the hood. Buddy pulls the trigger and the concussion cracks the windshield and blows the rear view mirror off the windshield. Needless to say he wasn't very happy with us! Don't remember if we killed the yote or not
It’s still illegal in a lot of states.
jds holler
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Here in Oregon things are pretty strict concerning hunting/shooting from a vehicle. Hunting regs say -- it's illegal to hunt or harass ANY wildlife from a motor propelled vehicle. Makes no mention of private property. AND on ATV's a snowmobiles guns and bows must be unloaded. (chamber). ALSO illegal to shoot from or across a public road or right of way.
Also illegal to cast an artificial light from a vehicle while in posession of a weapon, or even while within 500 feet of a motor vehicle.
These laws have been the same for many years, but were and still are frequently overlooked by a lot of folks. jd
Also illegal to cast an artificial light from a vehicle while in posession of a weapon, or even while within 500 feet of a motor vehicle.
These laws have been the same for many years, but were and still are frequently overlooked by a lot of folks. jd
CJ6
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Pretty close to what Minnesota has. Like Oregon they've been in place for a LONG time.
Rick in Oregon
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JD, Actually, most of our shooting takes place on ranches and farms far and away from any main roads. The landowners tell us to "kill 'em all", and they don't give a hoot how we go about it. In all the years I've been doing that here, we've never seen a badge in the wild, and in town when we talked to a local deputy, he said he could care less about how we go about it. One cloudy day when we were doing "drive-by" rat shooting out the truck windows, we were on the perimeter two-track next to a county road when a sheriff drove by and waved at us. It's really not an issue as long as one acts like an adult.
The only thing that's frowned upon is using an AR or variant, as most of these old boys just don't care for the look, and they do NOT want to hear semi-auto sustained fire on their property so we've been told. Not an issue for us, as almost all of us use single shot bolt guns or repeaters with a single shot follower installed.
Act like a responsible adult, and most times you'll get treated like one.
Law enforcement also have no rights to be on your private property without a warrant. They are trespassing at that point and you can tell them to kick rocks...
The laws in Oregon vary greatly between public and private property, with what you can and can't do.
The laws in Oregon vary greatly between public and private property, with what you can and can't do.
danny
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Back in the 60's we would road hunt ground hogs in a very remote area of southwestern PA. We had permission from the farmers and would rotate between several farms where we could access farm roads and hunt from the truck.
The typical scenario was we would drive around until we'd spot a hog, stop, and place a sandbag on the hood of the truck and either take a shot or wait if we happen to spook the hog. Sometimes, we just watch a field with a lot of holes.
This one occasion it was my buddy's turn to shoot. We spotted one and setup. He shot, a relatively easy shot. When he missed, we couldn't figure it out until we saw the longitudinal hole in the hood of his truck.The only good thing was it was his truck not mine. Hard lesson to always check the position of the muzzle.
My brother fired three shots into the roof of a rental one time. I gotta admit, kinda enjoyed reminding him about that for a few years.
jds holler
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I'm not trying to be a Karen about -- anything, and I won't deny shooting from my rig at the private land where I shoot squirrels. I also haven't read the law about activities on private land, but I've got a story for ya about that.
Back in the seventies, I had quite a trap line on a pretty huge ranch down here. Mostly muskrat in ditches where I could drive my truck down the ditch banks and set a float-board with trap every tenth mile or so. While running these traps, I also had the opportunity to shoot a lot of rats as they swam the ditches and have my bird dog fetch them. It had to be a good head shot, or the pelt would sell for damaged at about 20% of the price. We did a lot of this after dark with the spotlight. I was pretty sure that it wasn't quite legal, but it was on private land, behind locked gates, and in the dark, no one was likely to actually see us shooting.
Well one evening before dark, we ran into the state game warden who was patrolling the refuge adjacent to our ranch. He checked our hunting and trapping licenses, and spent a while chatting us up. I told him that we trapped the private ground behind the gates, and we were about to spend the next few hours with the spot light checking our line. I asked him if the ranch had given him keys to get in and patrol the place. He replied, "I don't need keys to go in there if I think you or someone else is breaking the law. My bolt cutters work just fine."
He was very matter of fact about it. He didn't say anything else about our spot-light activity, and was 100% "cop-like" in his attitude. We both went our ways, and we were a lot more careful about our spotlighting after that. I am sure that if he'd felt that we needed a ticket, he would give us one -- if he could catch us. jd
Back in the seventies, I had quite a trap line on a pretty huge ranch down here. Mostly muskrat in ditches where I could drive my truck down the ditch banks and set a float-board with trap every tenth mile or so. While running these traps, I also had the opportunity to shoot a lot of rats as they swam the ditches and have my bird dog fetch them. It had to be a good head shot, or the pelt would sell for damaged at about 20% of the price. We did a lot of this after dark with the spotlight. I was pretty sure that it wasn't quite legal, but it was on private land, behind locked gates, and in the dark, no one was likely to actually see us shooting.
Well one evening before dark, we ran into the state game warden who was patrolling the refuge adjacent to our ranch. He checked our hunting and trapping licenses, and spent a while chatting us up. I told him that we trapped the private ground behind the gates, and we were about to spend the next few hours with the spot light checking our line. I asked him if the ranch had given him keys to get in and patrol the place. He replied, "I don't need keys to go in there if I think you or someone else is breaking the law. My bolt cutters work just fine."
He was very matter of fact about it. He didn't say anything else about our spot-light activity, and was 100% "cop-like" in his attitude. We both went our ways, and we were a lot more careful about our spotlighting after that. I am sure that if he'd felt that we needed a ticket, he would give us one -- if he could catch us. jd
WTF!?? In Australia we shoot out the window all the time and spotlight at night. "Window shopping"
Obviously not shooting on public roads / land but you can do what you want on private.
joshb
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Back in the 80’s, my dad bought a 200 acre parcel of old growth woods with a house on it. We moved him in and he enjoyed hunting the property. One deer season, he called me about hearing shots on the property. I drove up and we set out to look for the perpetrator. We caught him! It was the local Game Warden.
jds holler
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I was looking at the Oregon Trapping Regs this morning, and found this that kind of pertains to this thread concerning vehicles and private land..
Predatory animals in Oregon include coyotes, gophers, badgers, feral hogs, and a few others. jd
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