LabRadar Question

[jlow]

I have the Ohler 35P and it is very accurate. What I don't like is trying to set it up when there are other shooters at the range, having to burden other people and trying to hurry and align the thing and worrying about shooting it....

I will buy the LabRadar should it become available and test it against my Ohler.

 

[offgrid]

James, I would be concerned about doing load development with a magnetospeed on my barrel. I would assume it would be similar to a tuner and would affect the barrel harmonics leading to different nodes when attached versus when not attached. The LabRadar I could use while doing load development and would not have to shoot through traditional chrony windows. That is my draw to this system.

Your thoughts?

I've used a few friends Magneto's, V2 and V3. With the three barrels I put them on, 24" medium palma 6.5x47, 26" medium palma 6x47 and a 28" heavy palma 6br, had POI shifts, group scatter. Effected the 6BR the least, but it was there. No way I would do load work up with a Magneto hanging on the end of my barrels.

 

[amlevin]

For the price I think I'll just look around for another 'donor rifle' and start another 'build'.

For those that need to know the speed of every shot during a load workup this may be great. I just do the load workup and when the accuracy is achieved I then chrono the best load for any ballistic's calculations.

 

[michaelnel]

I just do the load workup and when the accuracy is achieved I then chrono the best load for any ballistic's calculations.

I do the same. I have a Magnetospeed V3 and use it only after I have found a load the rifle likes.

 

[JBO]

OMG... I just read this post, very funny. Everyone here is very helpful and have the patience of a saint answering question. I have a flat spot on my forehead from the dumb questions I've asked here also. I apologize to JamesTN, I'm sure with reflection he'll find his post very funny someday too! I was crying from laughing after reading this.... Merry Christmas guy's,

I'm interested in buying the LabRadar but the price is too high for me to change from my Megneto Speed. I wait until the price comes down before I seriously think about purchasing one.

 

[jlow]

It's no more expensive than the Ohler 35p, maybe slightly cheaper... ;D

 

[JamesnTN]

I'm glad some found humor in my posts, the thing is I wasn't aware totally how this unit works. Until it was better defined. I assumed it had to determine a reading of some sort of impact in order to calculate speed over the distance traveled. I guess my questions were not clear on what I was seeking as in testing at 300 and 500 yards, I wasn't looking for what my velocity was at those ranges. I was just wanting to know my velocity when I test at those ranges from the muzzle or 10-15 ft in front of it. When I asked labradar the question and they said no it would not work I assumed then and again key word is assumed it had to pick up some sort of impact in order to give the final reading.

Anyhow thanks to those of you who took time to explain how this works, I learned something and I apologize if I looked like a fool over this.

 

[snakepit]

James, many of us are laughing out behinds off with your answers. You are way lost!

Anyhow thanks to those of you who took time to explain how this works, I learned something and I apologize if I looked like a fool over this.

James, no need to apologize, I don't think anyone thought you looked like a fool over this. Well maybe Erik did but you just have to get use to him. LOL

 

[ballison]

There are 2 types of people on this forum. Those that have posted a stupid question, and those that WILL post a stupid question. I got mine out of the way last month!

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

I can break the silence a little on this. The rumors that they failed the FCC is completely false, They have passed.

I can also tell you, that production has already been set to start. If it has started, or if its going to start soon I will not answer. I will only pass on, what I was told is ok to pass on to you guys.

 

[JBO]

I meant no disrespect to JamesnTN I've asked more then my share of stupid question and I assure you I'm not finished. Sorry, my apology to JamesnTN if I've offended you.

There are 2 types of people on this forum. Those that have posted a stupid question, and those that WILL post a stupid question. I got mine out of the way last month!

 

[GSPV]

FYI:

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We apologize for the delay in your receiving a reply. Apparently we had an email issue that we were unaware of that kept your inquire from being sent to us.

Production will be starting in the next few days for sales to the US and Canada. The final price is $559.95 and will be available from our website. You can see a unit working at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4a37bqY1SM


Best regards,

Richard Mouser
Exclusive Distributor for LabRadar
info@mylabradar.com
www.mylabradar.com
www.buymylabradar.com

I guess people didn't see this or didn't read it carefully.

Terse, but I formative. Production for US and Canada starting. Final price. Order through the site. Those are signs of things moving forward, not of stalling out due to FCC issues.

Could this all have been handled better? Yep. Customer service is something that I'll be keeping an eye on.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

I had actually posted that a week ago, I have no idea why it took that long to populate, maybe some kind of funky glitch in the system.

I had also asked it to email me when anyone responded, and it didn't do that until today. So two for one I guess, kind of odd.

 

[Joe Salt]

James here is your chance to ask Doc. about the unit, Will it work if you put it down range at 300 or 500 yards to give you what you want. I'm sure you shoot good enough not to hit it at that range.

Joe Salt

 

[Jay Christopherson]

James here is your chance to ask Doc. about the unit, Will it work if you put it down range at 300 or 500 yards to give you what you want. I'm sure you shoot good enough not to hit it at that range.

Joe Salt

What? Why would you put the unit downrange at *any* range? At least 6 guys have responded describing (accurately) how the unit works. I think James' question has been put to bed and from his earlier response, he's got it figured out now.

 

[michaelnel]

www.buymylabradar.com

I guess people didn't see this or didn't read it carefully.

I read it carefully. www.buymylabradar.com goes to newbuymylabradar.com, which says "This webpage is not available".

 

[deadwooddick]

James here is your chance to ask Doc. about the unit, Will it work if you put it down range at 300 or 500 yards to give you what you want. I'm sure you shoot good enough not to hit it at that range.

Joe Salt

What? Why would you put the unit downrange at *any* range? … …

IF the shooter/reloader "needs to know" the velocity at 300, 400 or 500 yards, why not set the LabRadar at a distance where it would read the velocity e.g. at 200Y for the 300Y "test" (and likewise for the other distances) ?

Yes, there's the issue of cycling the controls at those distances, but… if ya' "need" to know, what better tool is there, beyond something used by the military… at 100X the cost ?

As to the "button" reset/control issue at distance, time for the developers to include a remote control, a' la garage door opener. :

 

[Jay Christopherson]

James here is your chance to ask Doc. about the unit, Will it work if you put it down range at 300 or 500 yards to give you what you want. I'm sure you shoot good enough not to hit it at that range.

Joe Salt

What? Why would you put the unit downrange at *any* range? … …

IF the shooter/reloader "needs to know" the velocity at 300, 400 or 500 yards, why not set the LabRadar at a distance where it would read the velocity e.g. at 200Y for the 300Y "test" (and likewise for the other distances) ?

Yes, there's the issue of cycling the controls at those distances, but… if ya' "need" to know, what better tool is there, beyond something used by the military… at 100X the cost ?

As to the "button" reset/control issue at distance, time for the developers to include a remote control, a' la garage door opener. :

Hmm OK. I guess I can see that as I believe Bryan Litz mentioned something like that in his book, using an acoustic chronograph for testing at various points downrange. I guess I don't see the utility for non-scientific purposes, but I'll buy that there could be a case for it.

My guess is, is that you could simply place the unit off to the side of your field of fire, somewhere near the target to accomplish that. Yeah, like you say, I don't know how you would trigger it at that distance, since I thought it uses an acoustic trigger to record your shots.

 

[JamesnTN]

Ok I'll chime in, I wasn't looking for what my velocity is at 300-500 yards. When I load develop I test at those ranges. I really don't need to know my velocities as much as I need to know my SD and ES as I'm already shooting at known distances.
My concern was if I test at say 300 yards, and not knowing how the lab radar actually worked. I assumed it had to pick up some sort of impact of the bullet hitting the paper or a berm. That's where I got confused. I thought if it had to record the impact then testing at 300 it would not since it was only limited to 100 yards.
Now knowing it tracks the bullet from time it leaves the muzzle to a maximum distance to 100 yards it will read my muzzle velocity even if I'm testing beyond the maximum distance the unit is setup for.

This is new technology to me and over my head as I'm so use to the units we have on hand today. Which has a trigger as it passes one beam and a trigger passing the second and the software then calculates the time of flight between the two and records the velocity.

When I had the farm and a range setup to 500 yards I had stations setup with down range accoustics for my oehler 83 at target from 100-500 yards. That setup (farm) has been sold so I now either use the CED or the new magneto speed.

No one has hurt my feelings I made assumptions on something I didn't know anything about and mis interpreted what lab radar told me about the unit wouldn't work at the distances I test at. But that's my fault I didn't ask the proper question or ask in the manner of will it work even if I test past 100 yards. From the answers and description here yes it will so that's good enough.
So for me I got educated and was corrected on my assumptions of this product.

Big thing is now regardless is it won't ever work if it doesn't come to light and be available for consumers to purchase. So until then it's just an imaginary product that has everyone wanting.

 

[Milo 2.0]

Well, now that we know how the thing works I really want to try this product myself, and have been on the buy list since I first heard about it. What I'm skeptical about, like the magnetospeed, in 1 year are we going to be on a Gen 3 unit also?