Lab Radar Fix

[Terry]

https://www.longrangeonly.com/forum/threads/guess-i-am-not-alone-after-all-lr-down.6091/

 

[T-shooter]

Fixed permanently. Guaranteed to never give him another problem! Sometimes that's the best way.

 

[Ned Ludd]

That's kinda like wrapping your rifle barrel around a tree because you can't get it to shoot tight groups.

 

[ballisticxlr]

Well, yeah. You treat junk like junk. There are major design/construction flaws in the LR which they really don't tell you how to deal with. Shoot one next to an unsuppressed .50BMG and you'll soon find out. The product itself is great when used a particular way and with particular limitations. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of effort spent trying to educate any potential owners of the limitations. I've seen enough of them fragged to know one should watch it around things with large case capacities and highly effective brakes.

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

With a 50 BMG, I put it behind (myself) where I'm shooting & it works just fine. - And the blast doesn't get to it.

- Ron -

 

[dmoran]

@ballisticxlr
Here is a $35 solution to your complaints: Click HERE - JLK LabRadar Trigger
And here is a description YouTube video by @F Class John about it:

(Atten: @Terry )

 

[PatMiles]

@ballisticxlr (Atten: @Terry )

Here is a $35 solution to your complaints: Click HERE --- JLK LabRadar Trigger
And here is a description YouTube video by @F Class John about it:

Works like a champ.
Will give a false reading of very low velocity once in a while due to working the bolt. Hopefully the user will be smart enough to delete those false readings.
YMMV.

 

[Dave Way]

https://www.longrangeonly.com/forum/threads/guess-i-am-not-alone-after-all-lr-down.6091/

I could not get mine to pick up shots consistently, I called the manufacturer with no success working with them on settings etc. It ended up being more trouble than setting up my Oehler 35P, which works all the time. My solution was to send it back to Brownell's, or maybe it was Midway, for a full, no questions asked refund. That being said, I have had friends with the same problem and other friends who got a unit that works just fine. It shouldn't be luck of the draw when buying an expensive item.

Dave.

 

[powderbrake]

I have a labradar that works great. At first I had problems, then I spent more time reading the manual, and setting up the parameters that matched my rifle. I put aside my labradar base and use a low cost travel tripod and ball head from Amazon. I made a sighting device from a piece of 1/4 inch brass tube that makes it VERY easy to aim the Labradar.

I use the 1-6" setting and put the muzzle about 1- 2" in front of the Labradar, and about 2" to the side of it. (I don't have a muzzle brake, nor would I bother to set up next to someone with one)

I use the Labradar app on my iPhone, MUCH,MUCH easier to use than the buttons on the Labradar. As a result it never misses a shot unless I forget to "arm" it. Using an external Li ion battery pack, allows the arming time to be set at a much longer time, so it doesn't "disarm" when I am screwing around with my loads.

Our club has a loaner Labradar, and I have helped people who can't get it to work because of the settings. Pistol and black powder users need to adjust the velocity range, but without studying the manual, they typically have poor results. I believe most of the problems with Labradar are in the set-up. It is very difficult to get the muzzle close to the Labradar when using the Labradar base or something similar because the muzzle is so far off the end of the bench. This is where the tripod really helps.

For recordkeeping (and it helps me to remember to set up a new Series) I use this sheet, and this target. (I aim at center, and crank the scope down 2-3 clicks to keep from shooting out the center) After I measure centers using On Target, I record those on the target page, and keep it and the record sheet in a binder for that gun/barrel combination.
Forgetting to set a new series and forgetting to arm are my two problems.

 

[ballisticxlr]

@ballisticxlr
Here is a $35 solution to your complaints: Click HERE - JLK LabRadar Trigger
And here is a description YouTube video by @F Class John about it:

(Atten: @Terry )

THanks for the tip. Doesn't change the damage already done but at least now I have a treatment. I'd prefer MS make a fix which comes with the kit.

 

[Bisson1990]

With a 50 BMG, I put it behind (myself) where I'm shooting & it works just fine. - And the blast doesn't get to it.

- Ron -

Is that the failure mode, 50BMG or similar blast damage?

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

I have No idea where it will fail as far as blast goes. - I've had mine just forward of the action on an Unbraked 375 Chey-Tac Improved, and a 416 Barrett, and some other big 338's (all without muzzle brakes) without any problems. - I just put it back behind me when I'm shooting a braked 50 cal. to reduce chances of having it get a blast of gas. (That's a 300 WSM on the Left & a 416 Barrett on the Right laying on the white towel on the bench)

 

[jpags]

My LR worked great for a while. Then all my shots were 3280 from every distance shown on the screen. Even the loads with different charges.. my SD was amazing! Now it’s ready for its THIRD trip back to LR. Each time I was told it was repaired. My issue is not triggering. I use the inertia trigger which works great. Like I said it worked great initially and I had zero problems setting it up in the beginning. It is so frustrating!

 

[group therapy]

I have a labradar that works great. At first I had problems, then I spent more time reading the manual, and setting up the parameters that matched my rifle. I put aside my labradar base and use a low cost travel tripod and ball head from Amazon. I made a sighting device from a piece of 1/4 inch brass tube that makes it VERY easy to aim the Labradar.

I use the 1-6" setting and put the muzzle about 1- 2" in front of the Labradar, and about 2" to the side of it. (I don't have a muzzle brake, nor would I bother to set up next to someone with one)

I use the Labradar app on my iPhone, MUCH,MUCH easier to use than the buttons on the Labradar. As a result it never misses a shot unless I forget to "arm" it. Using an external Li ion battery pack, allows the arming time to be set at a much longer time, so it doesn't "disarm" when I am screwing around with my loads.

Our club has a loaner Labradar, and I have helped people who can't get it to work because of the settings. Pistol and black powder users need to adjust the velocity range, but without studying the manual, they typically have poor results. I believe most of the problems with Labradar are in the set-up. It is very difficult to get the muzzle close to the Labradar when using the Labradar base or something similar because the muzzle is so far off the end of the bench. This is where the tripod really helps.

For recordkeeping (and it helps me to remember to set up a new Series) I use this sheet, and this target. (I aim at center, and crank the scope down 2-3 clicks to keep from shooting out the center) After I measure centers using On Target, I record those on the target page, and keep it and the record sheet in a binder for that gun/barrel combination.
Forgetting to set a new series and forgetting to arm are my two problems.

thanks for these sheets!!!! as far as this thread is going, there is another thread where quite a few folks discussed problems they had with their lr. they also explained what they did to fix said problems. after I got mine (dec of 2019) I paid attention to what these folks had said. I carefully align the lr, place it correctly (add a little up to the angle after I think I have it right) in relation to the rifle, set the parameters correctly, and it has worked perfect. not having to make the line cold, seeing on paper what the chrono says simultaneously ( not having to chrono and then check if the paper agrees), all priceless. I use an old (1991) tripod with an adjustable head and it works great. I hate it for the shooters out there having trouble but might wanna try starting from scratch after you read the other thread, hopefully it will solve the problems.