King of 2 Miles 2018 Match Rules

[mongo chicago]

Good point on the scoring system. I only wish I could participate.

 

[hubel458]

Many guys do say it is most important to hit them all on 1st day to win
and it is good deal to have couple extra shots on 1st target and
one extra target at shorter ranges the 1st day as a
way to get more 1000 yd guys joining in growing the sport..

Here is a drawing depicting the layout of thick and thin sided cases,

like my 585/375/416 HE thin sides ones and the thick one.

And my 585 case is not perfect, as where it transitions from the

heavier corner to the side it isn't gradual, so case separates there

shortening case life. There are others made that way including brand X.

The dotted line is what it should be. ..Ed

 

[hubel458]

Others have sent cases to section and look at, that are built thick sided and they stick also for the folks, If a longer case with about 5 sq in of side surface sticks and don't spring back, the coefficient of friction is about .01 then the pull needed to move it is 2500-3500 lbs..That is for big cases with normal amount of slant to the sides. Ed.

 

[hubel458]

Here is picture of six nyati and gibbs size cases sectioned..5th one is present 585 HE]
and 6th is thick sided version. 1st 600 OK which essentially nyati basic case left straight, belt added

In the picture the nyati gma is one we built most of our first 585s on. Before we had factory run.
Reworking made it in size that is my 585 HE, but that brass had the sides of perfect thickness,
not too thick, but thin without sharp transition my new factory 585s had, they last forever as 585s......

Fourth one is an older nyati case I used to make about 10 of my 585s from ...they had thin sides
and sharp transition, and then I tested these 20 years ago, and they would separate after -4-6 hot loads
as 585s, my factory 585 with right powders as a 585 will get 10 hot loads, and necked down to
416/375 4- 6 hot loads, right powders used, Moderate 577 equivalent, factory 585 at least 20 loads..Ed.

 

[hubel458]

Guy sent thick sided 375 case, next size base diameter up from Nyati.He said,
'Yes I ran them in a ___________ rifle built by ____, the best I
could get was 44000 psi, any more and they were stuck''

Big bore guys. other forums over the years related that trex/african case in 585
size, thick sided cases, stuck when they loaded them over 45k psi.

Another just sent us, thick sided 375, long case, same base OD as our 585 HE,
416 HE, 375 HE, and Mitch's 375 Lethal, and the thick ones stuck over 45k psi.

Now you can fill those cases up, with ultra slow enough powder so they won't
stick, but powder is too slow for max speed. Might get a little more
speed, with thick sides case, but case got to be 4- 4.5 inches long..

. Anyone needing a sectioned case of the ones I made the first of my 585s from,
contact me, if they want to get a general idea of what case side thickness should
be, in Gibbs size cases on up to about trex and 375 VM size case diameter.

Here is pic of our 585 based case next to brand X and thick ones, both have
same sharp, thinner, corner, where transition from heavy angled corner, to the
side, the carbide draw rod could easily be reshaped with diamond wheel,
just by grinding off sharp transition corner. Then sides would be perfect.., .

 

[IdahoSharpshooter]

one thing missing from the rule book:

1A. participation is optional.
1B. participation is optional.

 

[hubel458]

Here is picture of thick 375 case sent to me, with thick sided trex case, and our HE case,
The thick 375 case is .050" bigger OD base, but inside is no bigger than HE cases..
These thick sided 375s stuck when loaded over 44,000 psi....

Got guys asking and I'm doing it, to do my 416 HSM case for BMG actions, so leaving rim same,
as the original bmg rim, so will neck them, fire form to the longer shoulder, like the others.
Base a little bigger, Shoulder same diameter, same 30 degree slant, neck will be same..

The inside of case still has close to same shape and volumne within 3 % as the ones we slimmed down.
Some want to use bmg actions and can't wait for intermediate actions, or already have bmg action.
And they are really getting interested in the complete line of 416 CEB bullets now being done..Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here is 416 HSM guy working in a Montana PH,
in a heavy thumbhole target stock.
It has a .805" diameter bolt... Ed

 

[davidjoe]

I think this is moving rapidly to a certified "Rich Man's Game". The connection to real world equipment is already tenuous. And the rubber band is being stretched farther every day.
At this point, "Growing the sport" is dependent on shooters who will spend $10K+ on a very specialized rifle.
Eighteen months ago I had this notion that a Savage single shot 338 LM and my Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 could compete. Silly me.

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IdahoSS, check into the Barrett 99 .416 Single shot bolt action with a 32 inch barrel. I believe this factory gun threatens to win wherever one shows up, which speaks volumes considering the line.

Consider that a good Bipod and picatinny rail cost $650, yet this rifle includes both. That puts just the rifle at about 3,200 towards a “custom” job.

I’m not aware of any custom action with the 50 BMG bolt that won’t cost well over 2k, and a 2.5 inch Bat is over 3k, then you still have the barrel, fitting, stock and trigger/guard to buy.

With the weight limit fluctuations in ELR you will still always be safe. Just like you got a very accurate 2,000 yard gun relative to the money you spent on the .338 LM, this one’s a great deal for the final 1,000 plus yards you need in ELR, and at least a feed people’s choice on the line who also have customs on hand.