Kimber 84M Varmint

[copperking81]

I really like the look and action on the Kimber 84M Varmint but I wish it were heavier. It will mostly be used for P-Dogs, Rock Chuck, etc... so not a lot of walking around and shot from the bench where weight will help.

Interested in opinions on the rifle itself. I want it in .204 Ruger. Anyone else think it would be too lite? It's only about 7lbs.

Any thoughts on how I could add weight? None of the after market stock makers inlett for Kimber 84s so that option is out. After the barrel goes, I can put a non fluted barrell on it but that probably won't help much.

How's putting steel or lead in the stock?

 

[Bangs OH]

Don’t care for the Pro Varmint?

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

Just get a Tikka !

 

[sdbob]

I like to see my shots through the scope. That 204 in a lite gun will have some muzzle jump.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

You may be over thinking this issue. I have a Kimber 84M Varmint in 204, and I don't have any issues whatever seeing all the hits/misses through the scope, weather shooting from a bipod, bench and bags, or over a rock in the field after rock chucks.



If weight is a big issue for you, then screw on a heavier barrel, although the fluted stainless Wilson barrel supplied from Cooper shoots quite well as-is.

 

[copperking81]

Don’t care for the Pro Varmint?

I am considering the Pro Varmint too but looks like that only adds about 1/2lb.

 

[copperking81]

You may be over thinking this issue. I have a Kimber 84M Varmint in 204, and I don't have any issues whatever seeing all the hits/misses through the scope, weather shooting from a bipod, bench and bags, or over a rock in the field after rock chucks.



If weight is a big issue for you, then screw on a heavier barrel, although the fluted stainless Wilson barrel supplied from Cooper shoots quite well as-is.

Interesting... I would think there would be more movement with such a lite rig. Do you have an idea on the approximate contour used on the Kimber and what max contour you think the stock could take without having to open the channel? If you had to open it, is there enough wood to work with?

One more for you... I think I saw you post that you have a Cooper M21 in .204. How does the weight on the Cooper compare to the Kimber?

Nice set up by the way! I have the same bag and rest combo... just need the rifle now

 

[Rick in Oregon]

Short on time, but I'll say that I was surprised that my Cooper M21 MTV 204 weighs exactly the same as my Kimber 84M Varmint 204. I'll PM you with a proper answer when time permits.

 

[Bangs OH]

I can see most of my shots with both my .204 Cooper V. and CZ Kevlar Varmint; the Remington LVSF moves a bit with anything more than mild loads.
The synthetic-stock Cooper Phoenix is at least a half-pound heavier than our wood ones, fwiw.

 

[219DW]

To reduce muzzle jump use a Harris bipod and attach a lead weight to it with a sling swivel. My Buddy made me a two pound weight with strap steel through the loop on the swivel and both ends attached to the lead with sheet metal screws. Crude buy works. Be sure to resight rifle after adding weight.
Dave

 

[B23]

Go through the process of getting a suppressor, it'll take care of your muzzle jump and muzzle blast, it's a win win!

Used to shoot my CZ 527 Varmint 204 suppressed, it would hardly move and was A LOT quieter.

 

[K22]

You might look at the Weatherby Vanguard. I have the new series 2 in 223 Rem, 9" twist.

I like the 7.5 lbs weight and 24" barrel. The trigger is good, the extractor superior, the stock is sturdy for an economy rifle, and the three position safety is useful. Maybe I got a rare one off the line but mine shoots under 1/2" five shot groups at 100y with Hornady 60 Vmax bullets and H4895. At under $600 this is a steal.

 

[Webster]

I really like the look and action on the Kimber 84M Varmint but I wish it were heavier. It will mostly be used for P-Dogs, Rock Chuck, etc... so not a lot of walking around and shot from the bench where weight will help.

Interested in opinions on the rifle itself. I want it in .204 Ruger. Anyone else think it would be too lite? It's only about 7lbs.

Any thoughts on how I could add weight? None of the after market stock makers inlett for Kimber 84s so that option is out. After the barrel goes, I can put a non fluted barrell on it but that probably won't help much.

How's putting steel or lead in the stock?

I have a Rem 700 BDL Varmint model. 26" Kreiger barrel tapered to match the factory barrel. With a 40 YO Unertl scope on it it weighs about 13.5 lbs.

 

[copperking81]

Still thinking about the Kimber but what’s everyones thoughts on a Savage 12 LRPV? Which would you go with?

 

[tstowater]

My FIL shoots a Cooper 21 and a Kimber 84M in 223. He is a real Cooper fan as he also has 21's in 17MachIV, 17 Rem, 204 and maybe more. Interestingly, the Kimber is his go-to gun for year around varmint shooting. He doesn't comment about recoil in the Kimber. The only thing he didn't like was the bolt handle and the trigger guard which he modified both.

I have a Savage Model 12 in a 204. Hard on the eyes, but harder on prairie dogs. Generally 0 to 300 yards is point and kill. I think that the barrel is getting a little weak, but it has had a lot of ammo down the tube. No issue with recoil. Definitely can watch the shot. Other than I have a small mountain of 204 brass, I probably would convert to a 20 Practical for the next barrel, but that could happen anyway as I have other 204's.

 

[1raggedhole]

Still thinking about the Kimber but what’s everyones thoughts on a Savage 12 LRPV? Which would you go with?

I used to shoot an LRPV in 204 and really liked it. Converted it to 6br because I like the action. Would definitely recommend it as a bench varmint rifle.

 

[Webster]

I really like the look and action on the Kimber 84M Varmint but I wish it were heavier. It will mostly be used for P-Dogs, Rock Chuck, etc... so not a lot of walking around and shot from the bench where weight will help.

Interested in opinions on the rifle itself. I want it in .204 Ruger. Anyone else think it would be too lite? It's only about 7lbs.

Any thoughts on how I could add weight? None of the after market stock makers inlett for Kimber 84s so that option is out. After the barrel goes, I can put a non fluted barrell on it but that probably won't help much.

How's putting steel or lead in the stock?

I recently bought a Rem 700 ADL Varmint model. It has a Tupperware stock. Looks impossible to glass bed or skim coat. It easily shoots under .5" with a Kreiger 6BRX barrel. Terrible bedding situation. Whatever you buy I would look at something called a varmint model with a heavier barrel and a wood stock. Any weight you end up with will be OK. My Rem 700 BDL Varmint model with a heavy scope, a 26” Kreiger barrel and a bipod weighs about 13 lbs.

 

[JEFFPPC]

If you read my tale in the thread Shot of a Lifetime it was with a Kimber 84 Varmint in .223. For rhe price was not overly accurate . At best you could only count on .5. Today in a factory rifle I would me looking for a Sako, Tika, or Begara. If you can find an older 700 Varmint or a M70 Loreado they mostly were very accurate for a factory rifle.