jelenko
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How are three shots more reliable? If one is 'out' it's still going to be 'out'.If I was a cyborg, two shots might be reliable.
How are three shots more reliable? If one is 'out' it's still going to be 'out'.If I was a cyborg, two shots might be reliable.
I am pretty familiar with my own shooting tendencies. If 2 are separated by.250" and the 3rd is "out" by .380" then that is within my realm of accuracy. If one is "out" by .750" then I have to honestly ask myself was that "Me" shooter error or was that the load.How are three shots more reliable? If one is 'out' it's still going to be 'out'.
I am not that smart to answer that question. I just use 3 shots groups when trying a new bullet or powder which is rare these days since I do not do much load development anymore.How are three shots more reliable? If one is 'out' it's still going to be 'out'.
First I don't compete unless you count dead animals and I don't know to what purpose your rifle is used. I use 2 and 3 shot groups all the time HOWEVER, my goal is cold bore zero in hunting rifles, generally with sporterized military bolt rifles.. The process is time consuming but produces very usable field loads.I heard that shooting, the first time out with the rifle, only TWO rounds (and two groups) per combo during load development was a good way to save a little money and barrel life...as in...if the first 2 shots didn't produce one hole or at least a bughole, why bother shooting a third?
Opinions?
Works fantastic for me in various riflesI heard that shooting, the first time out with the rifle, only TWO rounds (and two groups) per combo during load development was a good way to save a little money and barrel life...as in...if the first 2 shots didn't produce one hole or at least a bughole, why bother shooting a third?
Opinions?
Looking at your 1000 yard ladders never gets oldI use 2 with powder (coarse) as a means to identify where to narrow it down with 3 of each. I do everything for a 1,000 yard rifle at 1,000, including bore sighting and zeroing though. I could imagine how the same approach would work at 100, but I would likely change to a level line with multiple aim points.
At 1,000, like below, it is pretty obvious where to continue next session.
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Tom
Looking at your 1000 yard ladders never gets old![]()
Awesome stuff. I definitely want to do more long range ladder testing, it’s very interesting. Those 300 WSMs shoot!Lol, that's an oldie! But, that was a good example of a readable 2 shot ladder, that the barrel likes the powder/combo. Most of these things we go straight to finer increments once we've had 100 barrels do the same thing. This wsm was the last time I did a "tall coarse" ladder. It is easy to identify nodes, and even which powders it likes for me...hence the line drawn from low to high, notice it doesn't leave the "highway". I like when they stay straight, even with conditions probably picking up as I ran upward, it stayed "between the lines".
Tom
Awesome stuff. I definitely want to do more long range ladder testing, it’s very interesting. Those 300 WSMs shoot!
When you run those ladders, are you rapid firing like you would in a match? One round after the other to hopefully shoot all rounds in a similar condition?
Good stuff, thanks Tom!Yes, I treat it no different than a relay. Try to get started in something you figure will hold. And I tend to not correct, but note what changes I see happen. Sporter barrels have to be handled differently of course, and is a great time for "one shot groups" lol, or what would be a true "ladder test".
Tom