Jewell Trigger Problem, Won't Cock

[JMayo]

I shoot ARA bench rest. I don't slam the bolt home. I do it gently. I think I'm somewhere around 1oz. All I have to do is touch it. To add to it screw in #1 screw, tiny tiny alan wrench and cheater glasses !
The instructions are on the web.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Wow, 61 g, that is equivalent to 2.15 oz. I didn't know triggers could go that low in settings.

Its designed to run 2oz. Most br triggers will go down to well below one oz but thats not necessary. If 4oz moves your rifle you need a new rest. I like to be able to feel the shoe

 

[butchlambert]

Wow, 61 g, that is equivalent to 2.15 oz. I didn't know triggers could go that low in settings.

Papacharlie, Most of the BR shooters I know have theirs set at 1 1/2oz. I can caress it and it doesn't release until I'm ready to fire.

 

[Papa Charlie]

Thanks for the information. I have never shot BR only FTR. Even for FTR my rifle is set heavy at 1.5lb, I have been contemplating replacing my trigger with a Jewel and taking it down to 8oz. That may even be high for FTR, I have only been shooting FTR for about 2 years and at only one range.
Constantly in a state of learning here.

 

[butchlambert]

Thanks for the information. I have never shot BR only FTR. Even for FTR my rifle is set heavy at 1.5lb, I have been contemplating replacing my trigger with a Jewel and taking it down to 8oz. That may even be high for FTR, I have only been shooting FTR for about 2 years and at only one range.
Constantly in a state of learning here.

When my buds are at the range with their rifles I ask them to check my trigger. It scares the 'ell out of them. By the same token I have to be careful with a 2.5lb trigger on my hunting rifles. I pul so hard that I shot over a deer's head.

 

[joshb]

Thanks for the information. I have never shot BR only FTR. Even for FTR my rifle is set heavy at 1.5lb, I have been contemplating replacing my trigger with a Jewel and taking it down to 8oz. That may even be high for FTR, I have only been shooting FTR for about 2 years and at only one range.
Constantly in a state of learning here.

Hey Papa: Look at B&Andy Tac Sport. I just bought one. The reviews are good about them taking “abuse”. They go down to 10oz., if I remember it right. Take this with a grain of salt because mine is still in the box and I haven’t used it yet. Maybe someone here has actual experience?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Thanks for the information. I have never shot BR only FTR. Even for FTR my rifle is set heavy at 1.5lb, I have been contemplating replacing my trigger with a Jewel and taking it down to 8oz. That may even be high for FTR, I have only been shooting FTR for about 2 years and at only one range.
Constantly in a state of learning here.

On an ftr rifle off a bipod i prefer to set them at 8-12oz. Seems to be perfect after some practice feeling it but not setting it off

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Jewell triggers are not robust. If you set the pull to a normal weight, the finger lever actually bends and flexes prior to firing. Too tight, too light, too flimsy. Best thing about a Jewell is that they are in so many rifles I purchase. I remove them and sell. Replacing with a standard Remington old style. Net is about 160 gain. Done it a couple of dozen times. Love Jewell triggers, come to think of it.

Tell you what, next time you have one of those junky jewells no matter which model remington pattern ill trade you 2 nice remington triggers for it.

 

[Brians356]

Your trigger might be bone dry, flush it out with lighter fluid. The other issue Jewells have when dry is locking the bolt up either in or out of battery. Common issue with them when used in the field. You can flush it out with water before of after it goes threw you, your choice depends on the venue.
Lighter fluid when dry will leave a residue that is also a lubricant, that will not attract dirt like oil's will.

Lighter fluid doesn't leave a residue, or if it does it's not a lubricant.

I ran an experiment: I cleaned an inch-square portion a plate of glass lying on my bench squeaky clean using Gun Scrubber and paper towel. Then I poured a small puddle of lighter fluid on that spot and let it evaporate for a few hours. With a desk lamp reflecting off the glass, I could not see any residue or film remaining. Then I took a fresh strip of Scotch Magic Tape and stuck it firmly where the lighter fluid had evaporated, rubbing it down and letting it "seat" for a minute. I then grasped one end of the tape strip and peeled it off. It took the same force to peel from the glass as when I subsequently ran the same tape test on glass cleaned only with Gun Scrubber. If there was the faintest "film" of lubricant on that glass, the tape simply would not stick nearly as well if at all. Looking at it another way: Any film of lubricant slight enough not to affect the tape would also be too slight to provide any lubricating effect on a trigger.
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[Dusty Stevens]

Damn man copy and paste day?

 

[Brians356]

Damn man copy and paste day?

Watching a baseball game on TV. Best sport for multi-tasking. ;-)

"Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it." Jonathon Swift, 1710

I am walking with a bit of a limp today.
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[PatMiles]

The last resort is a vacuum cleaner with a piece of pantyhose over the nozzle!

Kinky, I like it!

 

[butchlambert]

Lighter fluid doesn't leave a residue, or if it does it's not a lubricant.

I ran an experiment: I cleaned an inch-square portion a plate of glass lying on my bench squeaky clean using Gun Scrubber and paper towel. Then I poured a small puddle of lighter fluid on that spot and let it evaporate for a few hours. With a desk lamp reflecting off the glass, I could not see any residue or film remaining. Then I took a fresh strip of Scotch Magic Tape and stuck it firmly where the lighter fluid had evaporated, rubbing it down and letting it "seat" for a minute. I then grasped one end of the tape strip and peeled it off. It took the same force to peel from the glass as when I subsequently ran the same tape test on glass cleaned only with Gun Scrubber. If there was the faintest "film" of lubricant on that glass, the tape simply would not stick nearly as well if at all. Looking at it another way: Any film of lubricant slight enough not to affect the tape would also be too slight to provide any lubricating effect on a trigger.
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I would swear that AJ knew of what he was speaking. I'll have to email and ask him again.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I would swear that AJ knew of what he was speaking. I'll have to email and ask him again.

It really doesnt matter- he told me to do it. He built the mechanism and it works well when flushed with lighter fluid. I think ill be a rebel and just keep on doing it

 

[Brians356]

It really doesnt matter- he told me to do it. He built the mechanism and it works well when flushed with lighter fluid. I think ill be a rebel and just keep on doing it

Just for the record, I've never disputed (in fact I have endorsed) that lighter fluid should be used on triggers. Just pointing out a common misconception about lighter fluid itself.
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[MikeMcCasland]

Interesting this thread got bumped today; I tore a Jewell down for the first time about 30 minutes ago. Like others in this thread I'd gotten some trash in mine, despite religiously using a bore guide. Fortunately for me, mine failed mid-match; that was a real treat.

I had tried lighter fluid, and while it helped make the trigger functional again, it still didn't feel like it should.

There's a video out there Youtube by the '6.5 Guys', that along with snapping a few pics with your phone make disassembly and reassembly pretty easy.

Trigger is all back together, and there were no lost parts. The only tip I'd provide is put a philips screwdriver on the screws, and give it 2-3 real firm taps to loosen them up, then try backing them out.

Otherwise, should take you about ~45 mins if you're going slow.

Got it readjusted, and it feels like new.

 

[Brians356]

Interesting this thread got bumped today; I tore a Jewell down for the first time about 30 minutes ago. Like others in this thread I'd gotten some trash in mine, despite religiously using a bore guide. Fortunately for me, mine failed mid-match; that was a real treat.

I had tried lighter fluid, and while it helped make the trigger functional again, it still didn't feel like it should.

There's a video out there Youtube by the '6.5 Guys', that along with snapping a few pics with your phone make disassembly and reassembly pretty easy.

Trigger is all back together, and there were no lost parts. The only tip I'd provide is put a philips screwdriver on the screws, and give it 2-3 real firm taps to loosen them up, then try backing them out.

Otherwise, should take you about ~45 mins if you're going slow.

Got it readjusted, and it feels like new.

I've read that Arnold advises rinsing the trigger with lighter fluid after every match or session, whether it seems to need it or not. Something about "A stitch in time ... ".
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[JMayo]

Bench rest shooting only.
Every couple of years I'll take the trigger off and soak it in bbq lighter fluid. (The oils and stuff shows its self)
Supposedly the bbq lighter fluid leaves the film.
*I've never heard regular lighter fluid left a film.
I do flush out the sear area which drips out the trigger every month or so.

 

[Brians356]

Bench rest shooting only.
Every couple of years I'll take the trigger off and soak it in bbq lighter fluid. (The oils and stuff shows its self)
Supposedly the bbq lighter fluid leaves the film.
*I've never heard regular lighter fluid left a film.
I do flush out the sear area which drips out the trigger every month or so.

I performed my test using both Kingsford charcoal lighter fluid and Ronsonol. I suppose it's possible that years ago the Kingsford formulation was different, but I doubt it ever left any oil behind.
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[JMayo]

Never said it left any oil behind.