Jewel triggers customer service

[Raythemanroe]

Shiny ejector marks, maybe a click down on your charge may real in the flyer..


Ray

 

[EWaugh]

Ok I like that Ray. This is using 29.6 grs. of H4895 with a 450 primer. 1 click is about what a couple tenths?

 

[Raythemanroe]

Yes, Sir


Ray

 

[Alex Wheeler]

After you experience a BixnAndy trigger you will never use Jewells again. You can set a Bix half as light as a Jewell and it wont slam fire, ever.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

After you experience a BixnAndy trigger you will never use Jewells again. You can set a Bix half as light as a Jewell and it wont slam fire, ever.

Im in agreement with this 100%. I dont even pay attention to the jewell problems that are gonna run em into the ground anymore. All my jewells came from arnold and I have enough to last me a long time especially since bix'n andy came out. Call chris at bulletcentral for jewell and bix'n andy triggers. Hes a solid competitor and knows what hes talking about too. Customer service is the best.

 

[Erik Cortina]

BixnAndy lock up as good as Jewell's on the firing line. A properly maintained Jewell is hard to beat.

 

[jsthntn247]

Fact is Jewel has you by the short and curly's and they know it. If they would have told you to fix it yourself or order another one, you would have. Might not like it but that's the way it is when you make the best product on the market. Rifle Basix has some of the best CS there is but I have, and will continue to have, a Jewel on any Rifle set below 1lb.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

BixnAndy lock up as good as Jewell's on the firing line. A properly maintained Jewell is hard to beat.

Erik, I cant comment of reliability. I maintain my equipment and have never had a trigger problem with either. But I would say a properly maintained Jewell is not hard to beat. The Bix is night and day better. I still like Jewells (on hunting rifles).

 

[Dusty Stevens]

BixnAndy lock up as good as Jewell's on the firing line. A properly maintained Jewell is hard to beat.

Erik, I cant comment of reliability. I maintain my equipment and have never had a trigger problem with either. But I would say a properly maintained Jewell is not hard to beat. The Bix is night and day better. I still like Jewells (on hunting rifles).

some will never give it a try. it is so much nicer and way better than the modern jewells

 

[Raythemanroe]

Not when you can buy three Jewels and what do you get a half ounce?




Ray

 

[LarryDScott]

Malibu, I am very curious as to what your measuring device
may be that makes you say a Bix trigger is WAY better and Night&Day
difference between the two brands.

A Jewell when properly adjusted breaks clean w/o creep, at the desired
setting time after time, and thats the dependability that you pay for.
I will give you this, you paid more for the Bix, and if you believe
the above statements, I am as happy for you, as you are w/your
purchase. LDS

www.greatscottshooters.com

 

[fdshuster]

Just my thoughts and experience, but I do not believe in the super light ( 1 oz. and less) triggers whatever brand they may be. When they are new, and setup properly, yes they will be fine, but as they are used normally springs lose their tension, surfaces wear, and there is always a chance of getting a microscopic piece of dirt in the mechanism. When that happens you can experience an "unintentional discharge".

If it happens in the middle of a match, you can kiss goodbye to 10 points, sure to put you at the bottom of the score sheet.

Going with a trigger that light, you have given up any safety factor, you are operating right at the red line, and there will come a time you will cross-over that line. OOpp's or AW SH**.

My triggers, capable of going to 1 oz. have been boosted to 3 to 4 oz., and I've seen no difference in the scores or group sizes when going to a slightly heavier trigger weight.

A super light trigger will jump up and bite you, maybe next week, next month of next year, but it's waiting to happen.

 

[Raythemanroe]

I think a 1oz trigger is preferred for running fast for conditions. F-Class, why not run 2-3oz's?



Ray

 

[fdshuster]

Ray: I had a guy next to me using a brake on a big boomer, and the side blast set the trigger off when I had 1 oz. Another time I gently closed the bolt (as I always do), and had to gently slide the rifle forward to the forend stop. I normally go to the stop before closing the bolt, this time I did not. When the forend contacted the stop, the rifle went "bang", for a hit in the 8 ring, when I was on my way to a win with nothing but 10's and X's 'til then. I ended up in fourth or fifth place on that one.

After those 2 incidents, they were all increased to the before mentioned 3 to 4 oz. That was several years ago, & have never had an unintentional discharge since.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Ray: I had a guy next to me using a brake on a big boomer, and the side blast set the trigger off when I had 1 oz. Another time I gently closed the bolt (as I always do), and had to gently slide the rifle forward to the forend stop. I normally go to the stop before closing the bolt, this time I did not. When the forend contacted the stop, the rifle went "bang", for a hit in the 8 ring, when I was on my way to a win with nothing but 10's and X's 'til then. I ended up in fourth or fifth place on that one.

After those 2 incidents, they were all increased to the before mentioned 3 to 4 oz. That was several years ago, & have never had an unintentional discharge since.

you should get a gunsmith to adjust your trigger properly. that is a dangerous trigger that isnt right.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Ray: I had a guy next to me using a brake on a big boomer, and the side blast set the trigger off when I had 1 oz. Another time I gently closed the bolt (as I always do), and had to gently slide the rifle forward to the forend stop. I normally go to the stop before closing the bolt, this time I did not. When the forend contacted the stop, the rifle went "bang", for a hit in the 8 ring, when I was on my way to a win with nothing but 10's and X's 'til then. I ended up in fourth or fifth place on that one.

After those 2 incidents, they were all increased to the before mentioned 3 to 4 oz. That was several years ago, & have never had an unintentional discharge since.

I set mine to around 2oz, I like a little feel before the break..JMHO


Ray

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Malibu, I am very curious as to what your measuring device
may be that makes you say a Bix trigger is WAY better and Night&Day
difference between the two brands.

A Jewell when properly adjusted breaks clean w/o creep, at the desired
setting time after time, and thats the dependability that you pay for.
I will give you this, you paid more for the Bix, and if you believe
the above statements, I am as happy for you, as you are w/your
purchase. LDS

www.greatscottshooters.com

Trust me, when I first read about the Bix I said that is crazy. $400 for a trigger! I had no interest in it. That was until I used one on my friends light gun. I never thought something could improve on the Jewell by much. But man, it is soooo much better. I am a competitor, I have used Jewell's for years. I take them apart, flatten the side plates and polish the internals and make them as good as I can. But, they cannot be made to work as light as the Bix. After years of shooting a Jewells I had to train myself all over again to shoot a Bix, its just so light. But the BIG thing is it will not slam fire when set that light. This all relates to free recoil br. For prone or hunting, Jewells are fine and I will continue to use them for that. But in br they are the only way to go. I am not trying to justify my purchase, I have wasted alot of money on stuff, this aint one of them. Like it or not, the Bix is the future in competition. Look down the line, guys are willing to drop $2500 on scopes. I think a trigger is as or more important that optics.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Ray: I had a guy next to me using a brake on a big boomer, and the side blast set the trigger off when I had 1 oz. Another time I gently closed the bolt (as I always do), and had to gently slide the rifle forward to the forend stop. I normally go to the stop before closing the bolt, this time I did not. When the forend contacted the stop, the rifle went "bang", for a hit in the 8 ring, when I was on my way to a win with nothing but 10's and X's 'til then. I ended up in fourth or fifth place on that one.

After those 2 incidents, they were all increased to the before mentioned 3 to 4 oz. That was several years ago, & have never had an unintentional discharge since.

That is why the Bix is so good. Both triggers can be set to 1 oz. but the Bix will not go off, Jewells will.

 

[fdshuster]

Dusty: Not trying to sound like a know-it-all, but I know more about Jewell triggers than any local gunsmith who is willing to do trigger work (liability issues). Had a Jewell adjusted by the gunsmith & he left me with a whole lot of creep. Depth of engagement screw was set at the maximum limits.

I followed Jewells adjusting directions and it's a perfect 4 oz. with no creep or backlash.

 

[Erik Cortina]

ZFast, how light is your Bix and how did you measure it?

When bumping the gun on the rest stop, the trigger moves forward, not rearward, so that should not make it go off.