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It's still crazy out there

I went to a local gun show today. Waited in line 30 minutes before opening. The good news is that there were actually dealers with ammo and components. 1000 once-fired .223 for $180! I thought I was gouging two weeks ago when I sold 1000 for $50. Primers $80 a thousand! Bricks of .22 LR for $100. So, we know what the bad news is. Folks who have ammo and components are cashing in on the panic buying.

Just like earlier panics this will pass, leaving the people who paid 20¢ each for .22 LR feeling a bit stupid. :o
 
We had a gun show 2 weeks ago, I got there at 10:30am and I estimate the line to buy tickets was about 1/10th mile long. I left, I heard the line finally was gone by 2:00pm. I went on Sunday, got in line 1/2 hour early, then took 10 minutes to get in after buying a ticket.

There was only one large ammo dealer, I heard the Saturday line was pretty long for them, they had them isolated in a corner. Not much of a line Sunday, but they had little left--no 22LR or 223. They had some primers and handgun ammo in addition to the usual hunting ammo in various cartridges. They also sell professional reloads for common calibers and had none that I could see. Another professional reloading company was taking payments for future shipments--they didn't have many takers. Some smaller outfits had Bulgarian spam can AK ammo 700rds/$275. There was some PMC 223 for 1000rds/$850. I didn't see these guys selling much. AR's were available for $2000, not many mags or lowers (except the polymers). No uppers to speak of, prices were jacked up where there were.

I had made it a point to visit Scheels, Cabelas and Sportsmans Warehouse that week to see what they had. Not much--no 22LR, 223, 7.62x39, 308, 9mm, 40S&W or 45ACP unless it was the really pricey stuff. Hunting and shotgun ammo, yes, but not much in reloading supplies, and only some shotgun primers and some powders.

Fast forward to today, I visited the Big 3 again and it's even worse--same ammo outages except now even the pricey common stuff is gone, and now even the not so common cartridge reloading brass was decimated. Nosler and Speer bullets were the most common in stock. Scheels had a clipboard with powder availability (which they had put up in the last shortage period), and it showed all 0's--no powders. No primers except some shotgun. Rem 30-06 green/yellow box was common at two stores, Scheels had lots of 22-250, and the only 22LR was the rat/bird shotshells, not even any 17HMR. Sportsmans said the only primers they have gotten were 6k (yes, 6 x 1,000) two weeks ago. All employees said the same thing--we get what we get, there is no rhyme or reason to it, and it sells out immediately. There wasn't a new Glock to be found, but lots of SigSauer's. The only revolvers were 22's or 44mags on up. Cabelas had some Hodgdon and IMR 1# cans for $29/#, but not much selection.

The one large independent store in town had the best selection at high prices. An 8# metal can of IMR 4227 was marked up to $250 (when is the last year IMR packaged in metal cans?), single 1# powders were $30, old packaging Speer and Hornady bullets were marked up to $30/$40/$50 per 100, etc. AR's were available starting at $2,000, they had at least 2 with a $4,999 price tag on them. I looked for gold plating or maybe a gold coin embedded in the stock but didn't see any.

Over here, it's nuts out there.
 
I’m not sure if it’s getting better or worse… I do know I just gave $70 for a POUND of RL15 on GB; it made me throw up a bit in my mouth, but I really needed it, like right now for a project. :o
 
Wow I just paid 29.00 a pound for reloader 25 at my local shop and thought it was a grind! Gads folks are ya checking your local mom and pop shops> I also bought a box of discontinued Berger 20 cal 50 grainers. 32.00 but available. We need to all stop panicking. I personally havent heard a thing about a reloading ban.
 
And to think I was complaining about paying 180.00 for 3 lbs of Varget and 200 208 A-maxes at my local bass pro 3-2-13. I feel for you having to buy RL-15 for 70.00 a lb, just picked up 2 lbs last week for 21.95 per lb as a substitute for Varget. It's still bleak here in NW Ohio, but looks like it getting some what better, Slip.
 
DRNewcomb said:
I went to a local gun show today. Waited in line 30 minutes before opening. The good news is that there were actually dealers with ammo and components. 1000 once-fired .223 for $180! I thought I was gouging two weeks ago when I sold 1000 for $50. Primers $80 a thousand! Bricks of .22 LR for $100. So, we know what the bad news is. Folks who have ammo and components are cashing in on the panic buying.

Just like earlier panics this will pass, leaving the people who paid 20¢ each for .22 LR feeling a bit stupid. :o

It's more than crazy....sounds like someone's attempt or version of "Gun Control." Supplies for reloading have all but disappeared and even finished cartridges have disappeared from store shelves. Thats means that those who have it and are willing to sell it, will makes huge profits. Those who bought to hoard it, have it and won't. Those that want to buy and can't find it at what they are willing to pay, will have to stop shooting. And that mean some believe that will stop the violence and all will be safer. YA really gotta stop and wonder who the real lunatics in the world are. So much for supply and demand!
 

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