Is there a "long" 55g 22cal bullet?

[1911nut]

I've got a 40x in 220 Swift. The chamber is throated so long that Berger and Sierra bullets are seated in the case less than .100" when touching the lands. I've measured with the Stony Point tool and the bullet slip method.

I have several loads that shoot consistently in the 3's and 4's @ 100yds.

These loads are jumping .090 - .100".

Is there a 55g bullet that would have such an ogive that the jump would be greatly reduced if they were seated just .200" in the case?

I would love to see how this gun shoots with bullets just touching the lands but that would probably require an 80 or 90g bullet and with the 14" twist I doubt they would shoot.......

 

[Ggmac]

Use flat base bullets . No gain to Bts if shooting 600 yds or less

 

[1911nut]

I shoot FB Bergers and Sierras.

I was wondering if the Spire Point? is that Hornady? or some other ogive would shorten the jump.

I never heard of jumping a 1/10 of an inch, but somehow it works in my gun -

 

[Dr4nra]

I shoot FB Bergers and Sierras.

I was wondering if the Spire Point? is that Hornady? or some other ogive would shorten the jump.

I never heard of jumping a 1/10 of an inch, but somehow it works in my gun -

I shoot FB Bergers and Sierras.

I was wondering if the Spire Point? is that Hornady? or some other ogive would shorten the jump.

I never heard of jumping a 1/10 of an inch, but somehow it works in my gun -

Monos are long for weight as are the 53 Vmax, but you are going to run into twist issues. Heard the 53 TTSX stabilizes in most 14"

 

[ireload2]

Noslaer Ballistic Tips tend to be longer than any others because of the solid base is lighter than lead. However the short boat tail costs you some of that length.
Another long variation might be the no lead mono metals like barnes or the (CSB) California buzzard saving bullets that have no lead.
I think the no lead bullets are either mono metals or they have sintered tin cores.

You can also try a 60 Hornady Spitzer if you can find them.

 

[357Mag]

Ireload -

Howdy !

JLK offered a 55gr FB w/ a long ogive... like a #12 or some such. These were surgically accurate shot from my .22-35 Remington wildcat
24" 1-14 Hart; at over 3,600fps. These shot superbly from a 24" 1-14.

Barnes offers a long 55 TTSX bullets. But.....these may be too long to stabilize from a 1-14 .224" cal barrel.
Those longer .224" cal bullets..... even things like .75" +. long custom 60s can drive you to needing a faster twist barrel.

I shot 75 "A"-Max exclusively for both target/ varmint w/ my .22-35 Rem, but I also had to go w/ a 1-8 twist to do so w/ accuracy.
The combo was great on groundhogs !


With regards,
357Mag

 

[22BRGUY]

I shoot FB Bergers and Sierras.

I was wondering if the Spire Point? is that Hornady? or some other ogive would shorten the jump.

I never heard of jumping a 1/10 of an inch, but somehow it works in my gun -

Tikka 22 250's also have very long throats and require "long jumpin" but once you find the sweet spot... they work well

 

[swd]

If it's shooting in the .3's and .4's I wouldn't care if was an inch off the lands. Worry less, shoot more Just go shoot it.

 

[shoot4fun]

If you tried monolithic bullets like those from Barnes you might get better seating depth that you're looking for but longer is not better with that 14 twist. I know all barrels are different but my Weatherby SVM 22-250s are both long throat. I've never even tried to jam and both shoot very well. Hell, one of them has right at 4,000 rounds thru it and still can hold 3/4" @ 100 yards. It is almost unbelievable since the loads have been 50 NBT at 3980 FPS. Sounds like you are already so close to the bullet being out of the case for jam that you should just do a seating test on the bullets it likes and see where they come in again at distance off the lands.

 

[jcarpen]

I have a few 60 gr. .22 FB made up on a Sierra .780 jacket. You'd just have to try them to see if they'd stabilize in the 1/14. Pm me if you'd like to try a few.

 

[1911nut]

Great Information !

Thanks guys.

Yeah, the gun shoots pretty good but what would it shoot like with a lot less jump?
I'm goin find out

 

[Larryh128]

The TTSX's won't stabilize in a 14 twist. The 62 gr won't work in an 10 twist. Takes at least an 8 twist.

 

[mikegaiz]

Try the Sierra 55 gr HP BT game king. It has a long berrying surface and shoots well for varmints.

 

[GrocMax]

My criteria for 22-250 barrel replacement was the 1/4 inch jump rule They'll shoot fine with a buncha jump just gotta find the distances it likes.

 

[AckleymanII]

I've got a 40x in 220 Swift. The chamber is throated so long that Berger and Sierra bullets are seated in the case less than .100" when touching the lands. I've measured with the Stony Point tool and the bullet slip method.

I have several loads that shoot consistently in the 3's and 4's @ 100yds.

These loads are jumping .090 - .100".

Is there a 55g bullet that would have such an ogive that the jump would be greatly reduced if they were seated just .200" in the case?

I would love to see how this gun shoots with bullets just touching the lands but that would probably require an 80 or 90g bullet and with the 14" twist I doubt they would shoot.......

I will share with you what I did when my swift throats got long:

55g Sierra Semi point-EXTREMELY ACCURATE BULLET!!! I used AA2700 and Win 760, but H414 will work also

63g Semi point-again, extremely accurate bullet in a 14Twist!!! I used Win 760 and IMR 4350, accuracy is at a top end pressure node.

IMR 4064 EATS THROATS, I learned this the hard way! If you go to AA2700, Win 760, or Hh14, they are easier on throats by a long shot!!!


If you could find a gunsmith that has a swift with a zero freebore reamer, it would behoove you to set back the barrel. You have plenty of shank on that barrel, and don't be scared of cutting off 2+ inches and going to a Remage barrel nut if you have to due to taper on the shank dia.

The 55g Semi point and the 63g Semi point will shoot bug holes, but if your barrel is not shot out, set back the barrel with a zero freebore reamer. A guy just bought a swift reamer last night off this site that is a zero freebore reamer. You may want to contact him and see if he is a gunsmith...you hit the jack pot if he is!

 

[1911nut]

I've got a long list of stuff and bullets to try - it's greatly appreciated.

My two best loads so far are a Berger 52 with 4064 and a Berger 55 with H414.

I shot some loads yesterday and I have a few more not so hot ones and one group with the Berger 52 was .19"
I musta jerked the last three into the center of the group.
Stupid bullet is jumping is jumping 0.180"

I'm relatively new at precision shooting and developed a strong notion I had to start at the touch length and go in and out 5-10 thousandths at a time to find what the gun shoots best. This gun has way exceeded my expectations and taught me a lot.

I like loadin' and group shooting so I sure have a lot of options with the Swift.

 

[boltgunluvr]

Use flat base bullets . No gain to Bts if shooting 600 yds or less

Exactly. Objective data from real non-biased trials brought me to this conclusion decades ago! And some rifles just won't group a BT.