Is RCBS just another import marketing company these days ?

[Iowa Fox]

I think the profit goes to the shareholders, which could mean it gets distributed throughout the globe.

It takes profit to keep sending us out replacement parts at no charge. After 50 years of using their stuff I can't believe the way they have supported their products without question. Thanks RCBS, I appreciate it very much.

Actually most of the manufacturers in this sport take very good care of us.

 

[JRS]

I think the profit goes to the shareholders, which could mean it gets distributed throughout the globe.

It takes profit to keep sending us out replacement parts at no charge. After 50 years of using their stuff I can't believe the way they have supported their products without question. Thanks RCBS, I appreciate it very much.

Actually most of the manufacturers in this sport take very good care of us.

So true I wanted to upgrade my RCBS presses to have the look and feel of their modern presses. Handles, toggle blocks, linkage, etc; etc. No charge, no shipping cost to me. Outstanding 8)

 

[Alex Wheeler]

for those who stop buying RCBS because the get some components mfg over seas, I have a question,

what powder do you burn? do you use Lapau brass? what scopes do you use, come on fellows level the playing field.

RCBS is undoubtedly one of the fines run and caring companies I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with

Bob

Bob, the problem for me is China not strictly the fact its not made here. I have no problems buying items from countries with roughly equal standards of living. I do not feel the American working man should have to compete with someone with a far lower standard of living.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I'm guilty of driving a foreign car. Yes they create jobs here. The profit goes home to the motherland,i believe.

The profit goes to the dealership in the U.S. The dealership has already paid for the manufacturers profit.

You dont believe in the top down economy do you? I work at a dealer, dealers order cars based on what people buy. Stop buying they stop ordering. The dealer makes peanuts on a new car, the manufacturer makes the real money. I no longer have any loyalty to any car manufactures as all the GM parts are China/Mexico.
The global economy has hurt the USA. We should not have to compete with someone who lives on a cup of rice a day in my opinion. Especially countries like china who manipulate the value of their currency.

 

[bobm]

 

[LHSmith]

^^^^^I was happier when I kept my head in the sand

 

[BigBlueandGoldie]

for those who stop buying RCBS because the get some components mfg over seas, I have a question,

what powder do you burn? do you use Lapau brass? what scopes do you use, come on fellows level the playing field.

RCBS is undoubtedly one of the fines run and caring companies I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with

Bob

Bob, the problem for me is China not strictly the fact its not made here. I have no problems buying items from countries with roughly equal standards of living. I do not feel the American working man should have to compete with someone with a far lower standard of living.

Exactly. American companies who source goods from first world labor sources don't bother me.

 

[LHSmith]

I don't see how things will ever return to what they were. It's the Dollar Store economy. full of cheap crap....one on every town block or every 10 miles on a country road.......and the parking lots are always full. Too late for correction IMHO when "stuff" is given away for free by good ol' Uncle Sam.

 

[snert]

Redding Big Boss ll is Chinese.



deepwater

Wrong. Redding is made USA, imported castings from Pennsylvania.

I have figured out half of the RCBS acronym...Red China...

 

[justpassinthru]

I looked at a new RCBS scale a while back. On the bottom of the box in very fine print, were the words " made in China". I used to buy all my stuff from RCBS until this started a few years ago. Now, I buy mostly Redding products. Their customer service is just as good as that of RCBS.
http://www.redding-reloading.com/

 

[JRS]

You don't have to buy from other countries, Alex. Everything you use and wear you can purchase from American manufacturers. Clothing can be purchased from the garment district in New York and LA. Shoes from Allen Edmonds. Those shoes and clothing will cost you quadruple the price you pay for imported goods. Redding products are no longer made in the U.S.A. They can apply the "made in U.S.A." label on the boxes as long as the majority of the components are not imported. I just bought another new Ford F-150 that has the "proudly made in the U.S.A." sticker on the window, although the window sticker states 30% of the parts came from other countries. My Porsche is made 100% in Germany, without parts from other countries. We have priced ourselves completely out of the markets, and very few people in this country are willing to pay for "American made" goods.

 

[savagedasher]

While I'm typing this reply with an imported keyboard and PC that is tethered to an imported cell phone for a connection, there are many companys in reloading industry who make it here: Harrel's, PMA, 21st Century, K&M, etc..

While RCBS, Redding, and the big manufactures make and labor some of there products here, more and more is not because they are marketing against each other, and to stay afloat and be competitive, that is how they are forced to go about it.

Heck, its getting to be buying from a couple of our states is almost like supporting a different country.......

My 2-Cents
Donovan

so much for that thought where d you think the steel was made. Larry

 

[Shrek]

Well , it appears my suspicion that RCBS had sold its soul for a quick buck is correct. Redding , Forster , and Lee don't seem to have a problem doing well in the USA on the bigger company side and thankfully there is a bunch of little companies in all kind of niche areas making it here at home. I'll vote with my wallet and support those companies. I try very hard to maximize the made in the USA content in my life. It's a rare day I shop at a Walmart or the like anymore. I do my best to find local or regional stores with higher quality products. I'm not some kind of purist but I do hate helping our future adversaries like China. Like many , I object to making US workers compete against third world labor. Buying things made by first world western allies doesn't bother me a bit and helps bind us together and make the West stronger.

 

[snert]

Just for the record, Redding does not use Chinese or imported parts, forgings, steel etc.

Forgings are "imported" to NY from PA, where they are forged. Steel is made in Syracuse NY. Nuts and bolts are US made. Even the CNC and machining is US made or owned. All labor is US too.

snert

 

[Shrek]

And this past year I have been working on buying US made clothing. So far all my daily wear jeans , socks , and Tshirts are made in the USA. Hiking boots are western ally Italian , backpack is Berry compliant , rifle is US made , bullets and brass are too. I'm working at my level to push back the tide. I was very disappointed that the RCBS powder measure stand was Chinese and sad that a once fine American company is quietly selling out America.

 

[JRS]

How many of the electronics in your home, clothing, furniture, automobiles, etc; etc are actually made in the U.S.A.? Unless you are wealthy, and willing to part with the money, or willing to sacrifice and do without many things, you don't have much that is made here. You can have your computer made right here in America, with American made components. Are you willing to part with that kind of money? RCBS is trying to offer us quality products for an affordable price. Ask the Harrell brothers to produce an O frame press, comparable in size and strength to a Rock Chucker. Get ready for sticker shock ;D

BTW, snert. Redding, like RCBS, Forster, Hornady and Lee, use castings. Not forgings.

 

[Shrek]

Savagedasher , do you know where the steel they use is made or are you just assuming ?

 

[savagedasher]

Savagedasher , do you know where the steel they use is made or are you just assuming ?

Knowing how much steel is us made . I would have to assume it wasn't all American made
Larry

 

[Shrek]

JRS , the Lee Classic Cast is fully made in the USA as far as I know and many would argue that it's a better press that recent RCBS Rochcuckers. Yes there are whole sections of the US manufacturing sector that are gone but there is no reason to support the destruction of the US reloading tool industry.

 

[JRS]

JRS , the Lee Classic Cast is fully made in the USA as far as I know and many would argue that it's a better press that recent RCBS Rochcuckers. Yes there are whole sections of the US manufacturing sector that are gone but there is no reason to support the destruction of the US reloading tool industry.

LEE is the odd man out. Yes, the steel and castings they use is all Lee You are also correct about it being the best of the current presses made. It has always been that way